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Most feared player outside of the top 20?

Who is the most feared player outside of the top 20? Gilles Muller, Ivo Karlovic, and Tomas Berdych immediately come to my mind. What do you guys think?
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Re: Most feared player outside of the top 20?

I don't think Karlovic is feared, I just think most people dislike playing him. Muller hasn't done enough for him to be feared. I wanted to say Gonzo but he's number 19, so I'll say Henman just because he has a lot of respect from most of the top players.
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Re: Most feared player outside of the top 20?

Hard to say, since darkhorses are feared for different reasons. Karlovic is obviously a threat because of the intimidation of his serve, the frustrating service deadlock and the fact that you're going to have to be very disciplined on your own serve. Muller and Berdych are feared because of their unpredictable power game, the knowledge that if they get into a groove they're going to be slamming low-percentage winners past you all day and there's not much you can do about it. But then you also get people like Santoro or Mayer (OK, maybe just those two) who will feed you junk, disrupt your rhythm and make it hard for you to play your own game. So it's hard to reach a definitive conclusion.

It may be possible to look at this statistically and see which low-ranked upset merchant has the biggest number of scalps to his name. Muller is fast emerging as a strong candidate, considering his wins against Agassi last year and Nadal and Roddick in the Slams this year.

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Re: Most feared player outside of the top 20?

Wesley Moodie is a nightmare in grass and hard-courts. And I would also put on the list former top 10s like Moyá, Guga and Philippousis.

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If Mayer is one of the most feared men in tennis I think the game is in a very unhealthy position
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Re: Most feared player outside of the top 20?

Hrbaty, Blake, Niemenen, Berdych, Muller

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Re: Most feared player outside of the top 20?

Fabrice Santoro

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Oh yeah, i forgot Santoro on my list. I think he is Safin's most feared player.

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Re: Most feared player outside of the top 20?

Would depend a lot on the surface - say an Ivo on grass, etc.

And on the player. Some players have the number of another player. So Mayer might not be feared by a lot of players, but as a Fernando Gonzalez fan, I pray that Fernando never gets him because he has Fernando's number every time they play (Miami 2005 and French Open 2004).
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Re: Most feared player outside of the top 20?

And what about Ollie Rochus... He will be top-20 soon, but I think most top players don't really like playing him...
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Would depend a lot on the surface - say an Ivo on grass, etc.
Yep. Who wants to play Ivo on grass? On clay no problem. Same with Rusedski. I wouldn't want to play Blake on hardcourts. Berdych, Verdasco, and Muller can blow people away at any given time. Hrbaty is an experienced veteran who can give a lot of guys problems. A lot of talent out there past the top 20.
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Re: Most feared player outside of the top 20?

Former number 1s (Guga et al) are always a threat. Hrbaty is a known Top 5 slayer (he has downed Sampras, Agassi, Roddick, Hewitt, Federer, Safin, at one point or another). As for Santoro -- to paraphrase Marat: telling me I will go up against Santoro is like telling me I am up for execution tomorrow. Receiving serve from Karlovic is like looking up a tree trunk. Nandy Verdasco's forehand is a killer. Mueller, Matthieu, Berdych are among the "new balls" as far as Top 5/10 slayers are concerned.
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Re: Most feared player outside of the top 20?

Rommella - I was just coming back to say Verdasco. He's ranked way to low for his talent. So I can imagine that top 20 players aren't really thrilled when they see they have to play him. He's inconsistent, but if he's on, he's dangerous.
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