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Koubek - choker of 2005?

He led 6/4 *4/0 and from there pressed the self-destruct button.

I can't think of anyone else who has had a really clear lead and complete crowd support...and lost so tamely in the end...can you?
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Re: Koubek - choker of 2005?

an to lose that lead to lisnard
just awful
copies of that match should be burned
it was that bad

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the funny thing is he lost to lisnard
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Thank God I didn't see this match...

If it's really so bad like described, it of course an awful collapse for Koubek, but needless to say that this complete season was a bad one for him. Sure, he still doesn't need to lose like that, especially not in a home event, but I didn't expect much of him for the rest of the year. Koubek's 2005 started with the doping suspension and some injuries kept him out from properly practising for his return and he never seemed to catch up this deficit (and maybe some other reasons we are not aware of?! ).

I hope he can have a good 2006

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Re: Koubek - choker of 2005?

A player who lost against Lisnard should without stopping for 12 hours...


Regarding Lisnard i have always the feeling that even a good junior being 16 years old could beat him ( Donald Young put him on troubles and also Gasquet in 2003 )
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Take nothing away from Lisnard, the man is a tennis genius. When he gets into his groove no-one can stop him. No blame attached to Koubek, he was simply powerless against such a mortal.

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Take nothing away from Lisnard, the man is a tennis genius. When he gets into his groove no-one can stop him. No blame attached to Koubek, he was simply powerless against such a mortal.


But actually Lisnard made a good match...
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But actually Lisnard made a good match...
thats not possible
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Re: Koubek - choker of 2005?

poor koubek...not a nice way to lose..espesh in a home tourney
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Unquestionably the single worst loss of Koubek's career, and it's up against some pretty stiff competition.

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That second set deserves to be in the hall of fame of bad tennis.

I gotta give a big thumbs down to Koubek, he is the first player I have ever seen give up when they were actually leading in the match. You could tell at 6-4 4-3 that he had spat the dummy and even though he was mentally gone Lisnard still nearly gave him the match.
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That second set deserves to be in the hall of fame of bad tennis.

I gotta give a big thumbs down to Koubek, he is the first player I have ever seen give up when they were actually leading in the match. You could tell at 6-4 4-3 that he had spat the dummy and even though he was mentally gone Lisnard still nearly gave him the match.
If he gave up, he wouldn't have won a game.

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Take nothing away from Lisnard, the man is a tennis genius. When he gets into his groove no-one can stop him. No blame attached to Koubek, he was simply powerless against such a mortal.

My thoughts exactly
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If he gave up, he wouldn't have won a game.
not in this case, I was watching the live feed, and Lisnard wasn't too keen on winning the match either.

Lisnard went up 4-0 in the tiebreak, for it to come back to 5-5 with some lovely unforced errors, and then again in the 3rd set it took Jean-Rene 4 or 5 match points to finally close it out, including a double fault on one of them.
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