Pete Vs Roger !? - MensTennisForums.com

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-08-2005, 05:32 PM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 59
                     
Pete Vs Roger !?

i found great tennis pictures and videos here http://www.****************** i order the Wimbledon 2001 between Sampras vs Federer never saw this match before and good to see the 2 best tennis player's ever! at this time we were thinking maybe Federer beat sampras as lucky day...but was the first defeat of sampras since 96 quater agaisnt Krajicek and see that now federer is on the same way as sampras did it before...let see!

even if i was a great fan of pete, Andre Agassi say after his final lost against Federer at US Open that he never meet a guy so strong as Federer and i think he know what he talking about...Roger will broke the 14th grand chelem of Pete!?!?

Federer has still won 6 grand chelems in 3 years... Sampras won 14 in 12 years... Federer will broke probably this record at the end of his career!
tennisworld is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-08-2005, 05:41 PM
Registered User
 
TennisGrandSlam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hong Kong SAR, China
Age: 36
Posts: 1,662
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

Quote:
Originally Posted by tennisworld
i found great tennis pictures and videos here http://www.****************** i order the Wimbledon 2001 between Sampras vs Federer never saw this match before and good to see the 2 best tennis player's ever! at this time we were thinking maybe Federer beat sampras as lucky day...but was the first defeat of sampras since 96 quater agaisnt Krajicek and see that now federer is on the same way as sampras did it before...let see!

even if i was a great fan of pete, Andre Agassi say after his final lost against Federer at US Open that he never meet a guy so strong as Federer and i think he know what he talking about...Roger will broke the 14th grand chelem of Pete!?!?

Federer has still won 6 grand chelems in 3 years... Sampras won 14 in 12 years... Federer will broke probably this record at the end of his career!

1st Grand Slam Titles won by Sampras in his 19 years old
Last Grand Slam Titles won by Sampras in his 31 years old

1st Grand Slam Titles won by Federer in his 21 (would be 22) years old
TennisGrandSlam is offline  
post #3 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 06:33 AM
Banned!
 
its.like.that's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: sans domicile fixe
Posts: 34,169
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

for a second I thought TennisFool started this thread.



you tricked me.
its.like.that is offline  
post #4 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 06:35 AM
Registered User
 
flmmkrz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 4,470
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

He's got a long way to go before he can be talked about being in Petes league. He's a crazy talent and one day could overtake pete and be the best ever but thats not the case yet. He's still not Becker or Edberg to me yet.
flmmkrz is offline  
post #5 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 06:42 AM
Banned!
 
its.like.that's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: sans domicile fixe
Posts: 34,169
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?



nice one flimmy
its.like.that is offline  
post #6 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 08:20 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 932
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

Quote:
He's still not Becker or Edberg to me yet.
You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking.
deliveryman is offline  
post #7 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 11:05 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,402
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

Quote:
Originally Posted by flmmkrz
He's got a long way to go before he can be talked about being in Petes league. He's a crazy talent and one day could overtake pete and be the best ever but thats not the case yet. He's still not Becker or Edberg to me yet.

Hmm. On what basis could he not have measured up to Becker or Edberg yet, then? Six slams like them, a lot longer at number one, what more do you want - an RG final to match Edberg, perhaps? That's the only thing I can think of. He's certainly outstripped Becker on all counts, and I say that as fan of Boris.
jtipson is offline  
post #8 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 12:45 PM
Registered User
 
Loremaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 3,810
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

For me Pete was much better than federer is now. He can overtake Pete of course but need to improve a little bit.
Pete's defeat to Roger in Wimbledon was great Federer's win but for me it was similiar to Roddick USOpen 05 loss to Muller Roddick was in great form and he wasn't palying so bad but Giles was playing the best match of his life(so far) the same was with Federer beating Pete
But in my opinion inform Pete would beat even 2005 Federer (as federer hate palyers which attack so much and Pete was emperor of serve&volley game)
Loremaster is offline  
post #9 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 01:10 PM
Registered User
 
Sjengster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Somewhere fairly shingly
Age: 31
Posts: 11,359
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

Not the same thing at all - the scorelines of the two matches show that. Roddick played lousy tennis after surrendering the break in the first set and Muller made him pay. Sampras was below-par throughout all his match with Federer, his returns were very poor and ineffective, but he strung together a couple of brilliant ones out of nowhere to get to breakpoint at 4-4 in the final set, and if he'd taken those chances he would still, somehow, have scraped out a win. To me that match isn't an example of an inspired demolition job, e.g. Safin in the US Open final the year before when Sampras didn't do much wrong; instead, it shows just how difficult it was to beat Sampras at Wimbledon even when he was playing badly, it took a superb talent to do it and still it finished 7-5 in the fifth.

I unwisely did an online search of 'Sampras vs Federer' and found another tennis board with a 32-page (yes, you read that right) thread debating the merits of the two players. I got about 4 pages in, and these are long pages, before my head started to ache at the unceasing flow of invective from one particular Sampras fan who liked to use CAPITAL LETTERS a lot, to repeatedly EMPHASISE their point that Federer was IN NO WAY the equal of Sampras, that he was SIGNIFICANTLY inferior. Imagine undomiele with the Sampras fan gene injected into her, and that's more or less what it was like.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
Sjengster is offline  
post #10 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 01:39 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Posts: 3,402
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sjengster
I unwisely did an online search of 'Sampras vs Federer' and found another tennis board with a 32-page (yes, you read that right) thread debating the merits of the two players. I got about 4 pages in, and these are long pages, before my head started to ache at the unceasing flow of invective from one particular Sampras fan who liked to use CAPITAL LETTERS a lot, to repeatedly EMPHASISE their point that Federer was IN NO WAY the equal of Sampras, that he was SIGNIFICANTLY inferior. Imagine undomiele with the Sampras fan gene injected into her, and that's more or less what it was like.
That person unfortunately raises his ugly and illogical writing style in an unceasing trumpeting of Sampras across many tennis boards. His current reasoning for Sampras being greater is Federer's weak competition.
jtipson is offline  
post #11 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 06:50 PM
Registered User
 
Dirk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Posts: 7,934
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

Pete was not under par in that match. They both hit far more winners than errors. Pete said he couldn't read his serve. Return was never Pete's strong point. It was a well played match by both men and Pete would have against anybody except maybe Rafter that year.
Dirk is offline  
post #12 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 08:40 PM
Registered User
 
Sjengster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Somewhere fairly shingly
Age: 31
Posts: 11,359
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

Yes, but you're nearly always going to have more winners than errors on grass, both of them were playing routine serve and volley which yields a lot of winners. But look at that miss from Sampras, breakpoint down at 4-4 in the third - probably the crucial turning point in the match, and he dumps his trademark smash into the sidelines.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
Sjengster is offline  
post #13 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 08:44 PM
Got Premium? I do.
 
Seleshfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Bakersfield
Posts: 4,058
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sjengster
Yes, but you're nearly always going to have more winners than errors on grass, both of them were playing routine serve and volley which yields a lot of winners. But look at that miss from Sampras, breakpoint down at 4-4 in the third - probably the crucial turning point in the match, and he dumps his trademark smash into the sidelines.
What is your point here?
Seleshfan is offline  
post #14 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 08:48 PM
Registered User
 
Sjengster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Somewhere fairly shingly
Age: 31
Posts: 11,359
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

That he was below par - missing your signature shot on a breakpoint tends to signify that. Nothing unique to this particular match, he was having these sorts of inexplicable misses at virtually every tournament in 2001/02 until the final run to the US Open title.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

Q. Were you naked at the time in the spa?

ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
Sjengster is offline  
post #15 of 33 (permalink) Old 10-12-2005, 09:17 PM
Blown Out On the Trail
 
star's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 62,739
                     
Re: Pete Vs Roger !?

For me, and I'm not a Federer fan, Federer is a much more beautiful player to watch than was Sampras. He also has a better rounded game than did Sampras because it isn't centered on his serve. I think Sampras was better at the net though than Federer is now. Probably Federer won't ever become as good at the net as was Sampras because he doesn't really have to be.
star is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the MensTennisForums.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome