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Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/t...lo/571463.html

Basically, Arrese acknowledges (almost with tears in his eyes) his family, friends and Avendaño for being such a good partner, and complaints about the lack of compromise from Muñoz, as they didn´t want to follow in charge after DC final in Seville if they were not given the chance of working for the next two years. Muñoz gave both Arrese&Avendaño his word and as we have seen he´s not more than a liar and a fucking clown.

Gracias por todo Jordi & Juan


PD: As Jordi said in his last press conference, time will give reasons and history will give everyone the place that they deserve. Muñoz :retard:
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Re: Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

I'm still mad for him not putting Tommy on the team


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Re: Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

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I'm still mad for him not putting Tommy on the team
Different people have different opinions, and Spain has such a great bunch of players that you will never be able to satisfy everybody, but I honestly think over 90% of their decisions were the right ones (without a doubt) and some of them were just brilliant
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Re: Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

Oh I agree he's mostly made good decisions, but I still think that picking Feliciano over Tommy was a big mistake.


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Oh I agree he's mostly made good decisions, but I still think that picking Feliciano over Tommy was a big mistake.
If Tommy had gone to Bratislava instead of reaching Dubai SF, he would have probably gone to Italy also. I would have done the same as Arrese, it´s too easy to make oneself unavailable to play on carpet in Slovakia and be ready to play on clay months later, but things shouldn´t go that way, and I think that was the reason why he didn´t play doubles in last tie
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Re: Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

Gracias Muñoz, you weasel this is a great decision for sure and he might as well pick the sides as well and I wonder if we will be able to see the strings in the background when Sanchez talks to the media.

G2, were very good at their job and overall results can't be a reason for them to be sacked, well they made the right decision with Robredo, though in a way Ferrero should have had the same treatment, the only thing that is different is in Bratislava was Ferrero wasn't ranked highly at the time, whereas Robredo was and chose the desert.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

Well I don't agree in punishing a country for the actions of one person. If Nadal had refused to play the first round, would they have kept him out of the tie with Italy? No, of course not, they would have lost without him. Just because a person doesn't want to play at one time, it doesn't mean you should ostracize them from the team.


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Re: Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

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Well I don't agree in punishing a country for the actions of one person. If Nadal had refused to play the first round, would they have kept him out of the tie with Italy? No, of course not, they would have lost without him. Just because a person doesn't want to play at one time, it doesn't mean you should ostracize them from the team.
Nadal wasn't the highest ranked Spaniard at the time of the tie in Bratislava? You know the answer to that question? Was he expected to be # 1 in Spain now at the start of 2005 I highly doubt it.

Was Nadal there in the team? He didn't refuse the call, that's the difference. Robredo made his choice at the time and he got what he deserved. I mean it's not like he is as important to the team as Federer is to Switzerland for example.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

Well, if Federer refused to play a tie in Davis Cup (which has happened) should he be kicked off the team?


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What I'm trying to say is it doesn't matter who the person is, if they refused to play once it doesn't mean they should never be allowed to play again.

It's not as though they're committing a crime or anything.


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Well, if Federer refused to play a tie in Davis Cup (which has happened) should he be kicked off the team?
Look at context. Ok, here is a concept is one players ego more important than the overall team? Spain and Switzerland there is a slight difference in depth isn't there, this is the same thing as Söderling decided to be injured for India, and played in a tournament the day after you defended that action, yet you are complaining when Robredo did exactly the same thing.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Look at context. Ok, here is a concept is one players ego more important than the overall team? Spain and Switzerland there is a slight difference in depth isn't there, this is the same thing as Söderling decided to be injured for India, and played in a tournament the day after you defended that action, yet you are complaining when Robredo did exactly the same thing.
So we're going to have double standards here just because Spain has more depth?

I didn't complain when Soderling didn't play and I didn't complain when Tommy didn't play, so I don't understand how I was inconsistant.


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Well I don't agree in punishing a country for the actions of one person. If Nadal had refused to play the first round, would they have kept him out of the tie with Italy? No, of course not, they would have lost without him. Just because a person doesn't want to play at one time, it doesn't mean you should ostracize them from the team.
It´s not like Robredo is someone who has a secure spot in DC team as he´s not good enough, simply. When you have several players like Verdasco, Ferrer, LaLo or Tommy who one can safely say they are at the same level, you can safely choose those who have shown a bigger compromise with what DC spirit means (ie, Tommy was the only one Arrese could have a problem with bc of this, as himself declared after Slovakia kicked our ass). Therefore G2 decision was perfectly understandable
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Re: Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

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So we're going to have double standards here just because Spain has more depth?

I didn't complain when Soderling didn't play and I didn't complain when Tommy didn't play, so I don't understand how I was inconsistant.
Ok, how is it double standards when Federer basically carries the Swiss side? Or is this incorrect? Do Spain have more depth and that they can cover Robredo not being in the side and keep their World Group status? In theory Federer should not have been selected, but in practice that is not going to happen for the reasons even we can agree on.

What is your stance then? You weren't happy that Arrese left out Robredo, it was clear the reasons why he did it, whether you agree or not.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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Re: Arrese on his farewell as Spain DC captain

I never said the reasons weren't clear. And I made my stance pretty obvious.


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