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2nd Roland Garros doping case in addition to Argentine rumors?

apparently there has been a definitive confirmation by the FFT that one of the players who reached the round of 16 this year has tested positive on both their samples, and that a tribunal is investigating - is this the same case as the mystery Argentine, or a new one? As far as i know there is not even a confirmation on the sex of this player, let alone nationality.
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Reached the Round of 16... as in that's the farthest they went? Because if it was someone who got to the quarterfinals they'd have said "someone who got to the quarterfinals."

So who lost in the Round of 16? Any possibilites?

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Reached the Round of 16... as in that's the farthest they went? Because if it was someone who got to the quarterfinals they'd have said "someone who got to the quarterfinals."
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Not necessarily. It was someone who REACHED the round of 16, it doesn't mean they lost there.
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i think it is a player at least reached the fourt round
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Not necessarily. It was someone who REACHED the round of 16, it doesn't mean they lost there.

But no source is going to call it that if there is a more specific term for them. I mean, if they were a quarterfinalist, they're going to say "Someone who reached the quarterfinals tested positive." It doesn't make sense to say Round of 16 unless that was the farthest they got. They might as well just say, "Someone who played in RG this year tested positive" if they're going to make it more vague than it really is.

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it is not confirmed if the player is argentine yet
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And if those 4 all lost in the Round of 16, I think there's a pretty good chance that's what they meant, since Canas was already discovered. If it really is an Argentine.

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But no source is going to call it that if there is a more specific term for them. I mean, if they were a quarterfinalist, they're going to say "Someone who reached the quarterfinals tested positive." It doesn't make sense to say Round of 16 unless that was the farthest they got. They might as well just say, "Someone who played in RG this year tested positive" if they're going to make it more vague than it really is.

well, if you're right, then chances are pretty good it was an Argentine, since 4 of them lost in R16 (unless the positive is from WTA). So maybe it's just the same case we have already heard rumors about.
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Very interesting.....
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I am an Argentine Tennis Fan - it really makes me mad that as soon as there is a doping scandal it is automatically an Argentine. OK I KNOW that Chela, Coria, Puerta and now Canas have all been punished... but people seem to over look Korda, Ulirich, Koubeck and Oliver in their constant accusations.... I also agree with the fact Agassi seems to be very picky with his tournament choices and also find it extremely suspicious that one month he is a complete cripple, quote him "walking like an old man in the street" to next month US OPEN Finalist.... - but as I said in another post, people like him will NEVER be punished, as after all this would be bad for Tennis.

The point of my post is for people to realise that there have been other doping cases.... not all doping cases are Argentine Players.

It just seems to be that the Argentine Players are easy scapegoats. How would people react if the guilty party in question is NOT an Argentine, maybe a Spaniard, a Russian, a Croat or even a Swiss.. would there be an MTF thread entitled - Apologies to the Argentine Players???? I doubt it.

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I am an Argentine Tennis Fan - it really makes me mad that as soon as there is a doping scandal it is automatically an Argentine. OK I KNOW that Chela, Coria, Puerta and now Canas have all been punished... but people seem to over look Korda, Ulirich, Koubeck and Oliver in their constant accusations.... I also agree with the fact Agassi seems to be very picky with his tournament choices and also find it extremely suspicious that one month he is a complete cripple, quote him "walking like an old man in the street" to next month US OPEN Finalist.... - but as I said in another post, people like him will NEVER be punished, as after all this would be bad for Tennis.

The point of my post is for people to realise that there have been other doping cases.... not all doping cases are Argentine Players.

It just seems to be that the Argentine Players are easy scapegoats. How would people react if the guilty party in question is NOT an Argentine, maybe a Spaniard, a Russian, a Croat or even a Swiss.. would there be an MTF thread entitled - Apologies to the Argentine Players???? I doubt it.
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The point of my post is for people to realise that there have been other doping cases.... not all doping cases are Argentine Players.

It just seems to be that the Argentine Players are easy scapegoats. How would people react if the guilty party in question is NOT an Argentine, maybe a Spaniard, a Russian, a Croat or even a Swiss.. would there be an MTF thread entitled - Apologies to the Argentine Players???? I doubt it.
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I am an Argentine Tennis Fan - it really makes me mad that as soon as there is a doping scandal it is automatically an Argentine. OK I KNOW that Chela, Coria, Puerta and now Canas have all been punished... but people seem to over look Korda, Ulirich, Koubeck and Oliver in their constant accusations.... I also agree with the fact Agassi seems to be very picky with his tournament choices and also find it extremely suspicious that one month he is a complete cripple, quote him "walking like an old man in the street" to next month US OPEN Finalist.... - but as I said in another post, people like him will NEVER be punished, as after all this would be bad for Tennis.

The point of my post is for people to realise that there have been other doping cases.... not all doping cases are Argentine Players.

It just seems to be that the Argentine Players are easy scapegoats. How would people react if the guilty party in question is NOT an Argentine, maybe a Spaniard, a Russian, a Croat or even a Swiss.. would there be an MTF thread entitled - Apologies to the Argentine Players???? I doubt it.

Wait a minute mate, you are very funny, you are calling people for assuming it's an Argentine, and your not happy with this BUT YOU THEN GO ON ABOUT AGASSI!!!!!!!! ASSUMING HE HAS TAKEN DRUGS PLEASE TELL ME WHATS THE DIFFERENCE!!!!!!!
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