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Tennis Mag's best 40 players in the last 40 years - #8-5

8. Laver

7. Connors

6. Court

5. Borg

That leaves Sampras, Graf, Evert and Navratilova. I have to my head at placing Sampras over Laver since he never won the French. Here's how I think the top 4 will shake out:

4. Evert
3. Graff
2. Sampras
1. Navratilova



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Re: Tennis Mag's best 40 players in the last 40 years - #8-5

i think graf deserves to be higher than sampras (ducks to avoid any thrown debris)

22 slams winning all four at least 5 times i think
and oh, the only one to acieve the golden slam by winning the olypics along with the 4 in 1 year.

sampras can't conquer the slow courts, graf can conquer anywhere.
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Re: Tennis Mag's best 40 players in the last 40 years - #8-5

Do you have the rest of the list handy?

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Re: Tennis Mag's best 40 players in the last 40 years - #8-5

4. Evert
3. Sampras
2. Graf
1. Navy

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Re: Tennis Mag's best 40 players in the last 40 years - #8-5

Ehh... You couldn't possibly rank the men and women together.
That takes all the credit out of men's tennis.
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Do you have the rest of the list handy?

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40. Sabatini
39. Rafter
38. Wade
37. Kuerten
36. Capriati
35. Stan Smith
34. Hewitt
33. Hana Mandikova
32. Tracy Austin
31. Henin-Hardenne
30. Ashe
29. Davenport
28. Nastase
27. Sancehz-Vicario
26. Courier
25. Venus Williams
24. Vilas
23. Evonne Goolagong
22. Hingis
21. Roy Emerson
20. Ken Rosewall
19. JesusFed
18. Boris Becker
17. Serena Williams
16. John Newcombe
15. Wilander
14. Edberg
13. Seles
12. Agassi
11. McEnroe
10. Lendl
9. Billie Jean King

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8. Laver

7. Connors

6. Court

5. Borg

That leaves Sampras, Graf, Evert and Navratilova. I have to my head at placing Sampras over Laver since he never won the French. Here's how I think the top 4 will shake out:

4. Evert
3. Graff
2. Sampras
1. Navratilova
I never saw Laver play, but in his day I don't think there was the depth of field that there would have been in Sampras day. Just because Laver won on all surfaces doesn't make him better than Sampras. Maybe Sampras would have won a French Open in that time too against that shallow field. The field gets deeper as the prize money grows and also the racket technology allows a greater number of people to be able to hit better.

I think in Laver's day with the wooden rackets there were far less number of guys able to compete against the top level. Also in Lavers time there were only two surfaces: Clay and Grass. So Laver didn't have to switch to as many varieties of surface that Sampras did.

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Actually JesusFed should be much higher ranked than 19. How can they say Serena Williams is better with her one demensional style? What would make Wilander or Edberg better than JesusFed?

I am not sure what their criteria was. Statistical ratings puts JesusFed as the #2 all time best player considering win/loss record against top opponents in peak years. If you look at the rest of the list is seems pretty mixed up. What makes Sanchez-Vicario better than Hewitt talent wise?

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Interesting Sabatini over Marat, Yevgeny and Bruguera, even Conchita. All the guys have two slams, and Yevgeny has great doubles results

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Re: Tennis Mag's best 40 players in the last 40 years - #8-5

There's only three active players in the top 20 on this list

Roger

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Actually JesusFed should be much higher ranked than 19. How can they say Serena Williams is better with her one demensional style? What would make Wilander or Edberg better than JesusFed?

I am not sure what their criteria was. Statistical ratings puts JesusFed as the #2 all time best player considering win/loss record against top opponents in peak years. If you look at the rest of the list is seems pretty mixed up. What makes Sanchez-Vicario better than Hewitt talent wise?
I think number of GS, weeks at no. 1 and doubles performance

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Re: Tennis Mag's best 40 players in the last 40 years - #8-5

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Actually JesusFed should be much higher ranked than 19. How can they say Serena Williams is better with her one demensional style? What would make Wilander or Edberg better than JesusFed?

I am not sure what their criteria was. Statistical ratings puts JesusFed as the #2 all time best player considering win/loss record against top opponents in peak years. If you look at the rest of the list is seems pretty mixed up. What makes Sanchez-Vicario better than Hewitt talent wise?
In the magazine they said Roger was ranked only 19 because he's in the prime of his career and not finished yet. Of course this list may have been completed prior to his Wimbledon/USO wins this year. I'm not sure when it was finalized.

Poor Andy and Marat. Lleyton makes the list but neither of them do. Although Lleyton was #1 for two years in a row so....



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This list is a joke, purely done on grand slam success.
Hingis and Seles were much better players than Navratilova or Graf.

Sampras over McEnroe?
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What's wrong with Serena ? She's a big babe and hits hard, but she's good.

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Re: Tennis Mag's best 40 players in the last 40 years - #8-5

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This list is a joke, purely done on grand slam success.
Hingis and Seles were much better players than Navratilova or Graf.

Sampras over McEnroe?
Excuse me? Graf and Navratilova won all four majors, and in Graf's case she won the Olympic gold medal in singles the same year she completed the Grand Slam (1988, for those of you too young to remember). By contrast, Hingis never won the French, and Seles never won Wimbledon. So...yes, Graf and Navratilova deserve to be ranked ahead of those two just by those results alone.

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