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Article : Mats Wilander criticises slowing Wimbledon courts

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Wilander criticises slowing Wimbledon courts

NEW DELHI, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Wimbledon's slowing grass courts are hastening the end of serve-volley in tennis, former world number one Mats Wilander said on Monday.

"I'm personally very disappointed (at) the way they are making Wimbledon these days," Wilander told reporters.

"We're slowly losing the style of playing tennis which is the serve and volley."

Wilander, Sweden's non-playing captain for this weekend's Davis Cup World Group play-off tie in New Delhi, said ideally players should mix serve and volley with a solid baseline game.

"But we are slowly losing that because the grass courts in Wimbledon are getting slower and slower," said the 41-year-old, winner of seven grand slam titles in the 1980s.

Wimbledon is the only grand slam tournament to be played on grass. The French Open is played on clay and the Australian and U.S. Opens on hard courts.

Wilander said he believed such courts did not help Britain realise their dream of producing a first homegrown men's champion since Fred Perry won Wimbledon and the U.S Open in 1936, despite having two serve-volleyers in their ranks.

"I'm not sure what they are thinking in England because you have (British) players like Tim Henman and Greg Rusedski," he said.

"England might be the only country in the world who don't actually try and (prepare courts to) suit them. It seems they are doing everything they can for them not to win."

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Article : Wilander criticises slowing Wimbledon courts

Not that it's a completely new opinion, but it's great that Wilander is willing to speak out against it.
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Re: Article : Wilander criticises slowing Wimbledon courts

I mean as a grassphobe myself, sure Wimbledon personally has become more watchable, but the key is to get the balance right, when it was faster than a bowling green it wasn't tennis, but it wouldn't be a bad idea if they were quickened up and the clay slowed down.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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I mean as a grassphobe myself, sure Wimbledon personally has become more watchable, but the key is to get the balance right, when it was faster than a bowling green it wasn't tennis, but it wouldn't be a bad idea if they were quickened up and the clay slowed down.
As a member of the All-Surface Snobs Club, I agree with this.
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Not that it's a completely new opinion, but it's great that Wilander is willing to speak out against it.
Wilander has never been short of an opinion, but he can see the benefits of it for sure, even though it wasn't his favourite surface, but these things go in cycles.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Yeah, I seen this. I love grass court tennis, it's definitely my favourite, as I think it's the only surface where contrasting styles can succeed (serve and volley, big serve, baseliner, grinder), and I think the courts are fine as they are. I think they just changed the kind of grass used and they thought it was slower. But of course, Gonzo made the last eight so of course it had to be slower.

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Yeah, I seen this. I love grass court tennis, it's definitely my favourite, as I think it's the only surface where contrasting styles can succeed (serve and volley, big serve, baseliner, grinder), and I think the courts are fine as they are.
Doing stand up comedy again are we?

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Doing stand up comedy again are we?

Huh?

Sampras (serve and volley)
Ivanisevic (big serve)
Hewitt (grinder)
Federer (all-round)

So of course various types can succeed on grass.

Rather than muck about with the courts though, seriously Wimbledon needs to modernise, scrap the all white rule and get some commercial sponsors.

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Re: Article : Mats Wilander criticises slowing Wimbledon courts

I think it's a difficult task for Wimbledon to get the surface right. If it is as fast as it once was, it's a big serve, perhaps a volley, and the point is done. There's plenty of complaint about that sort of tennis too.

The pendulum has probably swung to far in the other direction now though.
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Well its still mostly the big guns who make it to the finals such as Roddick. Federer of course has an all-round game.

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Huh?

Sampras (serve and volley)
Ivanisevic (big serve)
Hewitt (grinder)
Federer (all-round)

So of course various types can succeed on grass.

Rather than muck about with the courts though, seriously Wimbledon needs to modernise, scrap the all white rule and get some commercial sponsors.
You're cracking jokes that grass is the best surface where everyone has an equal chance. I could do exactly the same for list clay, but both these surfaces favour heavily different types of players, so don't give me this nonsense that grass that it's the only surface where that can happen.

The courts are a bit slow, I've already given my view on this subject.

Just cause I have no sense of humour.

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Verkerk (big serve)
Muster (grinder)
Federer ( all round)

Those players can play well on clay doesn't mean it's the fairest surface.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Federer also has a wicked serve that is used to advantage on grass.
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Federer also has a wicked serve that is used to advantage on grass.
JesusFed has a big serve, too. He gets tons of free points. He's not Roddick but definitely he serves big

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Yes but these days serve and volley has no hope on clay, although Noah did it.

It's my opinion that grass has a fairer chance for baseliners than clay is for S and V.

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