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That 6-2 set Agassi played against Federer

That 6-2 set Agassi played against Federer in the 2005 US Open Final was the best set Agassi has played in a long long time. Did you see how hard Agassi was crunching the forehand? Very very powerful stuff that Federer could do absolutely nothing about! And Federer was actually playing very very well himself and getting in 80% of 1st serves. Agassi was executing the game-plan that he earlier revealed in the press conference - hit the ball into the corner and in the corner again and again and again. It kept Federer running away from the baseline like a swiss miss!

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That 6-2 set Agassi played against Federer in the 2005 US Open Final was the best set Agassi has played in a long long time. Did you see how hard Agassi was crunching the forehand? Very very powerful stuff that Federer could do absolutely nothing about! And Federer was actually playing very very well himself and getting in 80% of 1st serves. Agassi was executing the game-plan that he earlier revealed in the press conference - hit the ball into the corner and in the corner again and again and again. It kept Federer running away from the baseline like a swiss miss!
That's what you expect from a confident Agassi.
He was totally dominating the best forehand in tennis history.
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That's what you expect from a confident Agassi.
He was totally dominating the best forehand in tennis history.
I wouldn't say he was totally dominating. tbh I would say Andre was very lucky to win that set as Fed had many chances but still fair play to Andre he deserved that set but to say he dominated Fed is a bit off methinks.

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Besides it's one of the 2 sets that Roger Federer has lost in Slam Finals
He played great in that set

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If Federer is given time on his forehand its the best shot in the game. In the 2nd and 3rd sets Agassi was going to it with a lot of pace and Federer wasn't able to deal with it as well as I expected. The minute the ball sits up to Federer's forehand the point is pretty much over. Agassi very rarely allowed this to happen.
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Its amazing that someone can still play to that level at 35 years of age. Andre is a legend
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Its amazing that someone can still play to that level at 35 years of age. Andre is a legend
Yes he is. As a person who's a big fan of both, The 3rd set, Federer played it better, it looked like Andre did better because he broke 1st and fought all those BP chances Fed had but that was because he took advantage of his 1st BP opportunity, Federer had BP chances in 4 of Andre service games on that set, while Andre had BP on only 1 of Fed games in the 3rd (which he was able to convert)!! Now the 2nd set was all about Andre, I wish he could have played the entire match like the 2nd set!!

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In this set, andre has really used a lot of his power and strength. During the set you could hear him groan as he reached and run for many balls. I believe that he lost a lot of energy after this set because he was giving so much on each of the balls. It is a tough balance. Because you have to put so much in to win the set but then there is the gamble that you get so tired that you will have little left for later on if it goes to a fourth, fifth.
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In this set, andre has really used a lot of his power and strength. During the set you could hear him groan as he reached and run for many balls. I believe that he lost a lot of energy after this set because he was giving so much on each of the balls. It is a tough balance. Because you have to put so much in to win the set but then there is the gamble that you get so tired that you will have little left for later on if it goes to a fourth, fifth.
Exactly what I was thinking
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I think it did tire Andre out, which is a shame. If he hadnt had those 5 set matches earlier, I think he would have kept up the level, and we'd have had a better match which could have gone to 5 sets.
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In this set, andre has really used a lot of his power and strength. During the set you could hear him groan as he reached and run for many balls. I believe that he lost a lot of energy after this set because he was giving so much on each of the balls. It is a tough balance. Because you have to put so much in to win the set but then there is the gamble that you get so tired that you will have little left for later on if it goes to a fourth, fifth.
You'd be suprised how much energy Andre would have displayed in the 4th had he WON the 3rd set (and don't tell me about Fed's BPs - you're leading 4-2, 30-0 and have great looks at Fed's struggling backhand, you BETTER take advantage because if you stick in the 'neutral' long enough, Fed will destroy you; getting 1st serves in would have helped as well, I'd imagine...).

It was definately win-the-3rd-win-the-match-lose-the-3rd-don't-even-bother-playing type of a deal - much more so than even with Hewitt and the 2nd set in the Semis. Even against Malisse, Blake and Ginepri, at various points late in the game, Andre looked SPENT, then all of the sudden found 2nd and 3rd winds...

As for the 2nd set, Andre was finally hitting the returning/groundstrokes like a "legend" should be. The set was closer than it appeared despite the 6-2 outcome because his 1st serve was crap, which normally is suicide against Federer, who, thankfully, didn't play that well.



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Re: That 6-2 set Agassi played against Federer

Fed served at 76% I believe in that set. He was hitting his BH deep and wiht power but Agassi was playing great defense. His crosscourt FH was amazing. His BH's were amazing. His returning was some of the best I have ever seen from him. Fed wins that set against 99% of the tour players. It was some astonishing tennis by Agassi which caused Fed to tighten up a bit and miss some BH's later on in rallies.
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I really admire Andre, but deep down I know that Federer had a couple of more levels if he needed it. He gave the audience a good show but really didn't have to dig that deep...
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You'd be suprised how much energy Andre would have displayed in the 4th had he WON the 3rd set (and don't tell me about Fed's BPs - you're leading 4-2, 30-0 and have great looks at Fed's struggling backhand, you BETTER take advantage because if you stick in the 'neutral' long enough, Fed will destroy you; getting 1st serves in would have helped as well, I'd imagine...).
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Yes I agree that if he wins the third set then even without physcial strength, the adrenalin will help him energy wise in the fourth (Because I remember thinking at the end of the tie break that andre looks like he has already decided "it is over"). But I also felt that he was making so much effort to get to difficult balls in first two sets, that it is going to be very difficult to keep up this level of power and energy for 4 sets or 5 sets. I thought he was doing more power and energy in his shots than in match with xavier and robbi, also james.
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