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Thumbs up Roger will win RG next year because.......

Kafelnikov won it 10 years ago. I know it doesn't make any sense but hear me out. This year Nadal dominated the clay just like Muster did in 95 (ten years ago) and Nadal like Muster (Essen 95) also won a big title off the clay this year. Muster one his way to the French Open beat Kafel in the semis, the same place Nadal beat Roger. The next year Muster was cleaning up clay titles and making it seem as if he would win RG again and have another 95-like year. He was stopped by Stich and Kafel went on to win the title. That means Roger will go on to win the title and over the person who stops Nadal like Kafel did. The only question is now who will be our Stich. We will get our answer by examining Stich as a player. Stich was a all court talent who would have been a much more successful player had it not been for head issues and injuries. Who does that sound like??????? SAFFY!!!!!!!!! Saffy will take out Nadal next year and lose to Ninja in the finals.

This was all written in the stars by Muster ten years ago. Thanks mate.
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Re: Roger will win RG next year because.......

One word. Rafa.
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Re: Roger will win RG next year because.......

You are forgetting that the clay was made faster at RG and also it was very warm at that time which made it play a lot faster than usual. When there is the last 4 at RG consisting of Stich, Rosset, Kafelnikov and Sampras there is something not right there.

I don't think he will win it next year, unless he is serious about it and plays the 3 TMS events and prepares himself thoroughly for it, amongst the other reasons which I have mentioned previously.

Interesting theory Dirk.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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Re: Roger will win RG next year because.......

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One word. Rafa.
I think Dirk already took that one word into account if you read his post, adee.

But I have to agree with George, he needs to play all three TMS events for the first time in four years and preferably win something other than Hamburg; Monte Carlo definitely seems to be the best indicator for success in Paris, the winner there has at least reached the final of RG a few weeks later for the last five years, and been successful three times. If that requires skipping IW or Miami, so be it. He has little left to prove on hardcourt anyway, and he said after Wimbledon that RG was his big priority next year.

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It is an interesting theory, i am not quite sure that Nadal will defend his RG title next year but that does not imply that Roger will win. There are other people that may take Roger out on clay and it is quite early to discuss that. But the pattern of Nadal losing out to some bad match up (Safin? we can only hypothesize how they match up agaist each other at this moment) and then going down to Roger might well happen, again, not necessarily next year.
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But I have to agree with George, he needs to play all three TMS events for the first time in four years and preferably win something other than Hamburg; Monte Carlo definitely seems to be the best indicator for success in Paris, the winner there has at least reached the final of RG a few weeks later for the last five years, and been successful three times. If that requires skipping IW or Miami, so be it. He has little left to prove on hardcourt anyway, and he said after Wimbledon that RG was his big priority next year.
Yes, RG is the true test now for Federer. He has the best chance of an attacking player to win this event, if he is fit enough and uses his gifts to advantage.

Serve/volleying can be very effective if done right, though not all the time and I have said this many times before while he defends very well on hardcourts, his defensive skills on clay are not the greatest.

He could play Barcelona as well, if he failed early in Monte Carlo. Monte Carlo is the best out of the TMS for RG success as my thread at the time showed.

Just hope he can take winning RG seriously.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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I think Dirk already took that one word into account if you read his post, adee.
I must confess, when I see the word Roger or Federer now I tend to turn off

Safin wouldn't beat Nadal on clay anyway.
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No point in arguing here. Muster has written out this fate for all three men.
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No point in arguing here. Muster has written out this fate for all three men.
Yes. Yes he has. We'll resume this conversation in approximately 8 months shall we
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He will win it eventually. He deserves a career slam
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Roge has come close this year, losing in the SF to the best player. Also won another important clay tournament okay faster clay, but still. maybe he is not willing to tire himself out in preparation because then grass preparation is too much physically. Problem i see is that rafa not the only one with big game on clay, so many others gaudio, coria, puerta, and others. This is much harder
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Re: Roger will win RG next year because.......

Though I don't agree on your theory, I agree with you about Safin. I want to see him play Nadal on Clay, because all that spin will put the ball in his strike zone anyway, just like against Berdych in Bastad, where Berdych took the first set and looked comfortable swinging away at the balls in his strike zone. It would be a very interesting matchup indeed, Nadal v Safin on clay.

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Re: Roger will win RG next year because.......

He won't win RG

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Re: Roger will win RG next year because.......

That theory is all well and good but Roger needs to play Rafa before RG. He is for some reason very nervous when he plays Nadal so he needs to get Nadal out of his mind first to even make a match against Nadal competitive.

Also, as others have pointed out, he needs to concentrate on clay tournies a lot more this year if he is serious.

Thirdly - and this is my own theory, he needs to win the AO. Last year, he lost the AO so he wanted to rack up as much points as possible to stay #1 and guess where he got most of his points leading up to RG? Hardcourts. As a result his practice leading up to RG was seriously hampered. Also, because he lost AO, Wimbly became more important since he had a better chance of winning it compared to RG.

So, if he wins AO, I would expect him to change his schedule to make a good run leading up RG if he is serious about winning it. If he doesn't win AO, then sadly, it will be more like this year (sad for me since I would like him to get atleast 1 RG win).

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Nadal will own RG the next few years.


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