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The US Open draw is rigged for sure

I don't understand why the no. 3 seed should be facing the no.1 seed, i know its a draw but it seems to me that it was drawn to favour the US playeres ie. Roddick. I think it should be no.1 seed vs no. 4 seed in the semi-final. It looks like Hewitt gets the bad draw with no.5 seed Safin in his quarter. Hmmmm. Seems very suspect this US draw.
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I don't understand why the no. 3 seed should be facing the no.1 seed, i know its a draw but it seems to me that it was drawn to favour the US playeres ie. Roddick. I think it should be no.1 seed vs no. 4 seed in the semi-final. It looks like Hewitt gets the bad draw with no.5 seed Safin in his quarter. Hmmmm. Seems very suspect this US draw.

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I know...totally. Those damn Americans, they get all the luck.

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Let me rephrase the argument so as to make it impersonal:

You suspect that a coin is not fair, (that is, it is not equally likely to show heads and tails when flipped) and, in particular, you suspect that it always turns heads. You toss the coin once and it turns heads. You conclude that the coin is not fair.

Would you ever agree with this conclusion?
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This thread had to happen.
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This thread had to happen.
Did something like this appear on this board on other occasions?
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Did something like this appear on this board on other occasions?
Discussions were VERY heated during the 2003 US Open.

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Let me rephrase the argument so as to make it impersonal:

You suspect that a coin is not fair, (that is, it is not equally likely to show heads and tails when flipped) and, in particular, you suspect that it always turns heads. You toss the coin once and it turns heads. You conclude that the coin is not fair.

Would you ever agree with this conclusion?
what coin? and who tossed this coin? where is the evidence that a coin was ever tossed and this draw reflects this supposed coin? was there even ever a coin involved? if so, where is this coin now? The conclusion is, there is no coin involved at all, we've all been told that there was one, but have no irrefutable, concrete proof of it.
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Re: The US Open draw is rigged for sure

If you've been following tennis for more than a year you'd know that 1 does not necessarily have to play 4! Its completely random whether 1 gets 3 or 4.
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what coin? and who tossed this coin? where is the evidence that a coin was ever tossed and this draw reflects this supposed coin? was there even ever a coin involved? if so, where is this coin now? The conclusion is, there is no coin involved at all, we've all been told that there was one, but have no irrefutable, concrete proof of it.
The coin is a statistical idealization. We only got one realization of the draw in a public ceremony. Your last sentence says that since the coin turned heads, there is no proof it was not rigged to begin with. Yet, the burden of proof lies with those claiming that the draw was rigged.
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Probability of Roddick being at the bottom half: 50%.

Probability of idiots lurking on MTF: dangerously close to 100%.
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what coin? and who tossed this coin? where is the evidence that a coin was ever tossed and this draw reflects this supposed coin? was there even ever a coin involved? if so, where is this coin now?
1. a 1978 penny
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3. yes, well i've found plenty of pennies in New York City especially in subway stations...it could be one of them

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Corrected Q's and A's:
1. a 1978 penny
2. A fat and old guy who has never played tennis in his whole life
3. All evidence is lost
4. yes, well i've found plenty of pennies in New York City especially in subway stations...it could be one of them

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Re: The US Open draw is rigged for sure

I-tan 7:

If you are surprised by a 1 v.3 2 v. 4 seeding, you clearly have not been following tennis draws for much time.

Of the past forty grand slam tournaments, a 1 v. 3 2 v. 4 seeding has occurred twenty times.

Australian: 2003, 2002, 2000 & 1997.

French: 2003, 2002, 2000, 1998, 1997 & 1996.

Wimbledon: 2005, 2004, 2000, 1999, 1998 & 1997.

U.S.: 2005, 2004, 2003 & 1998.

I don't think your conspiracy theory holds water in light of the historical facts.
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