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What's his deal? Will he be playing the U.S. Open or is his ranking not good enough? Personally, I hope he plays, because at times, when he's on, he can beat great people. (ex: Henman, Safin...)

Plus, does anyone know if he's married? Because his profile page says he is, but I met him and he wasn't wearing a wedding ring, or at least I didn't think he was...
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Hey Ben, welcome to MTF.
There is a subforum here, for tournaments. In the USOpen forum there is a thread for the entry list. Tursunov got direct entry into the USO by using an injury protected ranking, so yes he is in and he doesn't have to qualify.

Pretty sure that he's married. Probably had the ring off because it interferes with his grip or something.

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He is married.


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Now that Tursunov lost to Seppi in the 1st round in New Haven, I predict he will be a 1st round washout at the US Open and go into a rankings dive through the end of the year...maybe forever.

There are critical moments in a guys career when they either capitalize on their opportunities and move up the rankings in big steps or they begin to listen to the voices in their head that continually whisper that they aren't good enough. Tursunov failed recently to win important matches that would have secured his confidence and helped him move upward (the Challenger 1st round loss after a great Wimbledon, the Roddick loss, the Rudzeski loss, and now this loss to Seppi)...all important losses.

I suspect that he has very little confidence at this point since he cannot sustain any momentum. He is at an important tipping point in his career... I believe he is slipping off the face of the tennis map and will slowly sink back down to the challenger level and remain there for quite a while.
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By the way, I like Tursunov believe it or not. He just appears to be one of the biggest wastes of talent on the ATP tour...there is no other way to put it.
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if there are people who waste their talents, are they the russians?

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if there are people who waste their talents, are they the russians?
Yes, they should update the dictionary to read...

"Russian"
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Of or relating to wasting talent in tennis
Of or relating to tennis players from Russia or its people, language, or culture who waste their tennis talent.


n.

A tennis player who wastes his or her talent who is native or inhabitant of Russia.
A person of Russian descent who plays tennis and wastes his or her talent .
A tennis player who wastes his or her talent native or inhabitant of the former Soviet Union.

Also see "wasting talent", "Marat Safin", and "Dmitry Tursunov"
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Yes, they should update the dictionary to read...

"Russian"
adj.
Of or relating to wasting talent in tennis
Of or relating to tennis players from Russia or its people, language, or culture who waste their tennis talent.


n.

A tennis player who wastes his or her talent who is native or inhabitant of Russia.
A person of Russian descent who plays tennis and wastes his or her talent .
A tennis player who wastes his or her talent native or inhabitant of the former Soviet Union.

Also see "wasting talent", "Marat Safin", and "Dmitry Tursunov"

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Madtown, I wonder if you would say any of this stuff (in this exact phrasing)to Dmitry's face if presented with the opportunity. Somehow, I doubt it.

I didn't "see" the match but I was following the SB for the entire match. Were you?

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Madtown, I wonder if you would say any of this stuff (in this exact phrasing)to Dmitry's face if presented with the opportunity. Somehow, I doubt it.

I didn't "see" the match but I was following the SB for the entire match. Were you?
I did follow the match on the scoreboard and my frustration is probably more than obvious in those posts. I have followed the guy for 5 years and I must say it is too frustrating.

Would I say those things to his face? The answer is yes. First of all, I'm 6'3", 215 and not many people intimidate me. But on a serious note, I am hopeful he turns it around...
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By madtown logic all Russians are a waste of their talent in which case, Kafelnikov wasted his talent as well as Sharapova, Miskina, Dementieva, Davydenko... should I keep going?! Or is there not enough Russian names for you in top 20?!
Also I would love to take that bet with you on him heading back to Challenger circuit. Somehow, playing first round in a Challenger doesn't quite add up enough ATP points for him to even move 2 spots in the ranking so losing is not a bad option if he is to conserve the energy. Oh yes, before you ask why enter, consider a thought of a "practice week"!
Of course those are all the details that are not important, because you are 6-3 and 215 pounds and it takes a while before things get that far up.
I'm also positive of the fact that you have lived up to your potential in whatever field you might be working as well as your personal life. In which case the only people that are worth your while are Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer. Perhaps they might be interested in your constructive critisizm as well!
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Based on the Rusedski and Henman matches I would say that Tursunov is a player that goes for everything. Some days he hits and some days he misses. You don't get into the top 30 using that type of approach (Fernando Gonzalez did but .........).

The Henman match was the day everything went right. Each time he was break point down he would come up with a huge first serve.

The Rusedski match was the match he should have won but threw away going for stupid high risk winners when he needed to put pressure on Rusedski.

He's a giant killer not a top 30 player. He almost beat Roddick but loses in the first round of a challenger.

Unless he decides to change his approach expect more of the same.
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Tursunov's a very curious player. Ironically, his great advantage also happens to be his great downfall.

The reason he's been winning matches nobody expects him to, is simply because he's so difficult to play against. Unlike most other players, with this guy you just don't know what to expect. This is nothing intentional on his part, though. It's simply the fact that he can't keep his abilities under control. Against Rusedski, he'd go through brief outbursts of hitting amazing shots, then producing the worst of the tournament to date; he'd hit unstoppable aces, and then almost struggle just to get the ball in. It's as if he goes through stages of being five different players, once in each game.

While most players like to know what to expect, with Tursunov it's just not possible.

You could say, that if he were to manage to get his game and his abilities under control, he'd be a force to be reckoned with. Then again, if he managed to accomplish that, he'd no longer be unpredictable.
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ANd you were there to back up the fact that he threw it away with stupid winners?! From what I saw live I would definetly back up the fact that Rusedski serve would perfectly set up in the middle of the court for Tursunov to slam it for a winner but the silly shithead just kept missing because he was soooo sutpid and risky! It's not that Rusedski tied two good points and made another good return and put pressure on another one by flying into the net like a pelican, it's the fact that Tursunov had so much opportunities to just rally with the guy but instead decided to go for stupid shots and throw it all away!
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Based on the Rusedski and Henman matches I would say that Tursunov is a player that goes for everything. Some days he hits and some days he misses. You don't get into the top 30 using that type of approach (Fernando Gonzalez did but .........).

The Henman match was the day everything went right. Each time he was break point down he would come up with a huge first serve.

The Rusedski match was the match he should have won but threw away going for stupid high risk winners when he needed to put pressure on Rusedski.

He's a giant killer not a top 30 player. He almost beat Roddick but loses in the first round of a challenger.

Unless he decides to change his approach expect more of the same.
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