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post #1 of 267 (permalink) Old 08-17-2005, 09:41 AM Thread Starter
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Rafa v Federer #1 discussion

We know that if Nadal won Cincy and Fed lost before the semis, Nadal would lead the Race. Now that Nadal is out...
For the good calculators of the board, what must happen on Federer and Nadal sides in USO for a change at the top ?

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

As far as I can see, the earliest possible change at the top now (in the entry rankings) would be Mon 2nd October (oops, make that Mon 3rd).

This would require Nadal to win the US Open and New Haven (or any other optional in September - he only has room for one more), Federer to do poorly this week and in New York and fail to reach the final in Bangkok.

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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

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As far as I can see, the earliest possible change at the top now (in the entry rankings) would be Mon 2nd October.

This would require Nadal to win the US Open and New Haven (or any other optional in September - he only has room for one more), Federer to do poorly this week and in New York and fail to reach the final in Bangkok.
Good news, thanks. I think Fed can sleep well till November...

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

Bother! Just when I was starting to think .... what if......?
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

when? whenever, he will, eventually....

just a matter of whether he could beat hewitt's record (20yrs and 9 months... )
i.e. be no.1 before march 2007..
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

never.

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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

Rafa will not play New Haven but I believe he's going to Beijing for the China Open in September.

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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

well if he wins the us and roger loses 1st round, then he'll be no1 in the race

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MY GOD, Rogi will stay # 1 at least in Entry Ranking, and that's what really count!
I don't care that stupid Race!!
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

If Roger wins Cincinnati, Rafael will be hard pressed to catch him, won't he?

Federer has not a single point from Paris or Madrid, and really only has a bundle of points from the U.S. Open. Nadal has no optionals left, if I'm not mistaken, so is it just a matter of Federer not imploding at the U.S. and putting some work in at his optionals in Basel and Bangkok?
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

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If Roger wins Cincinnati, Rafael will be hard pressed to catch him, won't he?

Federer has not a single point from Paris or Madrid, and really only has a bundle of points from the U.S. Open. Nadal has no optionals left, if I'm not mistaken, so is it just a matter of Federer not imploding at the U.S. and putting some work in at his optionals in Basel and Bangkok?
Don't forget Federer has quite a lot from the TMC too - the max 750.
Nadal is allowed an extra optional until Bercy as he wasn't ranked high enough for direct entry last year, but that only lets him gain 190 at the very most.
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

Ah. Tennis Masters Cup.

So, as long as Federer doesn't do HORRIBLY at the Open and cleans his optionals up a little bit, he won't have to worry about keeping #1 until the Masters Cup?
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

How many optional tournaments are allowed? 5?
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

I believe it's only 5.
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Re: Now that Nadal lost, when could he get number 1 spot ?

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I believe it's only 5.
Hasn't Nadal already won 5 optional tournaments this year? Brasil, Acapulco, Barcelona, Bastad, Stuttgart.
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