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Who is the "Well Known Veteran"?

From Jon Wertheim's column this week -

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This goes to the discussion a few weeks ago about player-fan interactions. I took my eight-year-old son to the Mercedes-Benz cup in L.A. He had his oversized tennis ball ready for autographs, and he experienced both ends of the "cool player" spectrum -- Bob Bryan, James Blake and Dominic Hrbaty graciously signed his ball -- A WELL KNOWN VETERAN, on the other hand, surrounded by body guards passed by my son and watched as his body guard shoved my son out of the way. I followed the entourage to the entrance of the players' lounge to speak with this guard, and A WELL KNOWN VETERAN stood just inside the door and heard my conversation with the guard. He looked at my son and still didn't sign the ball. By the way, it was "Kids Day" and A WELL KNOWN VETERAN had just won his match. He lost the next round -- I like to think it was cosmic justice.
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Thanks. My instincts are to name -- and thus publicly shame -- the misanthrope player. But without getting his side of the story, or at least independent corroboration, it's not really fair.
Here's the full results from LA

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1st Round

Andre AGASSI (USA) defeated Jean-Rene LISNARD (FRA) 61 60
Kevin KIM (USA) defeated Kenneth CARLSEN (DEN) 76(2) 67(3) 64
Paul GOLDSTEIN (USA) defeated Cyril SAULNIER (FRA) 64 64
Paradorn SRICHAPHAN (THA) defeated Mario ANCIC (CRO) 76(6) 67(4) 62
Tommy HAAS (GER) defeated Ivo KARLOVIC (CRO) 64 64
Xavier MALISSE (BEL) defeated Hyung-Taik LEE (KOR) 63 64
Juan Ignacio CHELA (ARG) defeated Marcos BAGHDATIS (CYP) 67(7) 63 64
Dmitry TURSUNOV (RUS) defeated Noam OKUN (ISR) 61 62
Zack FLEISHMAN (USA) defeated Vince SPADEA (USA) 46 62 64
Gilles MULLER (LUX) defeated Sebastien DE CHAUNAC (FRA) 26 63 76(6)
Robby GINEPRI (USA) defeated Wayne ARTHURS (AUS) 64 64
James BLAKE (USA) defeated Nicolas KIEFER (GER) 32
Ricardo MELLO (BRA) defeated Sebastien GROSJEAN (FRA) 16 62 63
Amir HADAD (ISR) defeated Cecil MAMIIT (USA) 26 63 63
Jan HERNYCH (CZE) defeated Jonas BJORKMAN (SWE) 64 64
Dominik HRBATY (SVK) defeated Karol BECK (SVK) 64 61

2nd Round

Andre AGASSI (USA) defeated Kevin KIM (USA) 62 75
Paradorn SRICHAPHAN (THA) defeated Paul GOLDSTEIN (USA) 61 64
Xavier MALISSE (BEL) defeated Tommy HAAS (GER) 16 63 64
Juan Ignacio CHELA (ARG) defeated Dmitry TURSUNOV (RUS) 36 64 62
Gilles MULLER (LUX) defeated Zack FLEISHMAN (USA) 63 75
Robby GINEPRI (USA) defeated James BLAKE (USA) 63 76(2)
Ricardo MELLO (BRA) defeated Amir HADAD (ISR) 63 61
Dominik HRBATY (SVK) defeated Jan HERNYCH (CZE) 64 62

Quarterfinal

Andre AGASSI (USA) defeated Paradorn SRICHAPHAN (THA) 62 46 64
Juan Ignacio CHELA (ARG) defeated Xavier MALISSE (BEL) 64 76(3)
Gilles MULLER (LUX) defeated Robby GINEPRI (USA) 76(5) 75
Dominik HRBATY (SVK) defeated Ricardo MELLO (BRA) 46 76(9) 62

Semifinal

Andre AGASSI (USA) defeated Juan Ignacio CHELA (ARG) 64 62
Gilles MULLER (LUX) defeated Dominik HRBATY (SVK) 46 76(4) 61
Final

Andre AGASSI (USA) defeated Gilles MULLER (LUX) 64 75
Obviously Andre's the best known veteran but he never lost. The player won a match so he had to have lost the next day so it's no first round loser. Are we really classing Tommy Haas or James Blake as veterans? Paradorn? Anyone know what day was Kids Day? The mystery deepens
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Re: Who is the "Well Known Veteran"?

He talks about Well known?? I guess it must be one from USA... maybe Spadea or Ginepri

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He talks about Well known?? I guess it must be one from USA... maybe Spadea or Ginepri
Ginepri is not a veteran or well known.

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Ginepri is not a veteran or well known.
I know, but Ginepri has been playing for some years now on ATP being a veteran doesn't have to mean being old.
About well known, if I'm right Robby won a tourney in an all American final the week before, so I guess his popularity grew even if it's for just 1 week due to media exposure.

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He talks about Well known?? I guess it must be one from USA... maybe Spadea or Ginepri
Spadea lost in 1st round

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Re: Who is the "Well Known Veteran"?

Now I really want to know.....Everything points to Haas but I don´t picture him doing that...

I´m really curious now....

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Re: Who is the "Well Known Veteran"?

Yeah, looks like Haas to me
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Doubt Haas has a bodyguard..
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Re: Who is the "Well Known Veteran"?

I thought that as weel....but then who?

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I thought that as weel....but then who?
Everything though indeed points to Haas. He was the only well known player who won on Kid's Day ( Tuesday ) and lost his next match.
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Re: Who is the "Well Known Veteran"?

well when that guys says bodygaurd...its probly a coach or friend or an assistant to the coach...

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Re: Who is the "Well Known Veteran"?

Sounds like it could be Haas. Isn't he known to sometimes get in black moods?
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Bodyguards are present at all the tournaments for all the players, it's not the player's personal bodyguard.

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Doubt Haas has a bodyguard..
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Re: Who is the "Well Known Veteran"?

It had to be Haas, he is the best known among that bunch. I cannot believe Paradorn
did this - I cannot believe it ... oh wait, Paradorn not eligible according to the wording.. Tommy has been known to be ...uh, moody?
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