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Question 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

It's 15-15, 2-2 in the third set of his match against Moya, and he called for the trainer and just stopped playing in the middle of his service game. I thought players couldn't do that, that they had to wait until the end of the game before they could sit down.
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noooooooo
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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

Cramping in his wrist, I think that's what the commentators said. I'm still confused though why the ump allowed him to stop play in the middle of the game.
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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

didnt puerta call the trainer at 15-40 on his serve during the rg final?

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he did and he won that game

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nadal taking tips from puerta.not cool mate.
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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

Really??, hope it's nothing Serious inshALLAh..

don't really know, but i guess may be it's allowed when there's something very interrupting or very disturbing that it hinders the player's performance ..may be it's a relative thing, but i think, its the umpire's decision..to take it..

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Really??, hope it's nothing Serious inshALLAh..

don't really know, but i guess may be it's allowed when there's something very interrupting or very disturbing that it hinders the player's performance ..may be it's a relative thing, but i think, its the umpire's decision..to take it..
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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

Rafa couldn't hold the racket so it was justified I guess. Not very nice for Carlos of course to lose the momentum.
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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

There's nothing wrong with it. It's not as if it was 5-6 30-40. It was 2-2 15-15... not a big deal.


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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

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It's 15-15, 2-2 in the third set of his match against Moya, and he called for the trainer and just stopped playing in the middle of his service game. I thought players couldn't do that, that they had to wait until the end of the game before they could sit down.
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5) Time-out Procedures. The following time procedures shall be followed:
a) During the Match. A player can make the request and receive a medical time-out either: immediately, on the next change-over/set-break (in such case, the time-out is in addition to the time allowed for that change-over/set-break), or when the ATP Sports Medicine Trainer arrives, evaluates and is prepared to give treatment. If play is stopped until the Sports Medicine Trainer arrives, then when treatment or consultation is completed (prior to the completion of the medical time-out), play shall resume immediately except in the case of a re-warm-up. In addition, the Chair Umpire can stop play and call for the Sports Medicine Trainer, who may advise that continued play is detrimental to the player’s health. In that case, the Supervisor may retire the player from the match.
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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

I think they should only be allowed to call during the game if it is very serious, and cant wait till the end. Like if they fall over and severely twist their ankle. They shouldnt be allowed to do it for cramp because thats just lack of conditioning.
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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

I believe thtey have changed the rules. You were not able to get treatment in the middle of a game before. I can't remember when they changed the rule. In any case, it was kind of weird. Cramping in the arm?
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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

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In any case, it was kind of weird. Cramping in the arm?
Supposidly that can be a result of lack of recent match play since it was in the arms and not a lack of fitness since it was not in the legs (per P McEnroe).

Anyway, I have to say that I agree with one of the British fellows who often comments on the Masters Tournaments that are shown on the Tennis Channel. You have to blame the rules and not the players. If the rules allow it, the players will use it. I saw that at Monte Carlo where Gasquet took an incredibly long injury time out that was well over allotment and got a full body massage for cramps. I was half expecting for them to dim the lights and play Enya. I saw that during the Puerta mid-point massage during the French Open. Do I blame the players? No. Because if there is a rule that allows things people will do it. That happens in sport and in life.

To alter the "If you build it they will come" line from Field of Dreams - if you allow it they will use it. (I know I do in situations in my life.)

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Re: 15-15, Nadal calls for trainer

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I think they should only be allowed to call during the game if it is very serious, and cant wait till the end. Like if they fall over and severely twist their ankle. They shouldnt be allowed to do it for cramp because thats just lack of conditioning.
Nadal didn't learn that trick from his mentor did he? It's a joke of a rule, but there are plenty of jokes going around at the moment.

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