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Exclamation An alarming French Open stat for the men's tennis

The last time that a French Open champion won another slam other than the French Open was Andre Agassi in 1999.

So since then, all the French Open champions have only been able to win at the French Open.

This is becoming a problem for men's tennis because audiences aren't simply recognizing French Open champs anymore. It's becoming the black sheep of men's grand slams.

This of course started with Pete Sampras and his legacy. He never won there and he was the premier player that the American audiences recognized.

Now, you have players like Kuerten, Costa, Ferrero, Nadal winning the French Open. All Spanish and South American players. And the grand slam could be seen as becoming too specialist and losing its significance.

Roger Federer needs to win the French Open so inject some validity back into it. Or even an Andy Roddick success there would be welcomed too, especially since he is already a US Open champ and is recognized in the States.

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Re: An alarming French Open stat for the men's tennis

Is this above post serious?

The US is not the epicentre of the tennis world and when Courier won it, they didn't care then and the only reason they cared when Agassi won it was because it was the Slam that gave him the career Slam.

Speak for yourself about RG winners not getting recognised, considering that it's a common view that it's the toughest Slam to win and Agassi the guy won all 4 of them has said that.

You're cracking jokes with those reasons stated previously.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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You think because 'people' don't recognise French Open winners, the said players don't win again??

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Speak for yourself about RG winners not getting recognised
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You think because 'people' don't recognise French Open winners, the said players don't win again??
It's not as alarming as claiming that it's damaging men's tennis, to tell you the truth I don't think Costa, Bruguera, Kuerten or Gaudio care less.

Come to think of it even when Wilander won RG, he was still disrepected when he won the other 2 Slams.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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I forgot it's an alarming stat that Borg was the last guy to win Wimbledon and RG in the same year.

This means that if Fed wins RG, he probably won't win Wimbledon in the same year, that is truly alarming.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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The title of the thread teases me...I was like "what's up?"...but I have to say I'm kinda disappointed...
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Now, you have players like Kuerten, Costa, Ferrero, Nadal winning the French Open. All Spanish and South American players. And the grand slam could be seen as becoming too specialist and losing its significance.
You can't be serious! The players you named, not recognized by the crowd...Let me have a laugh. Are you really convinced that the French Open is gonna lose significance? Don't forget about the particular attraction it can have among tennis fans who prefer clay as a surface. RG has always had-and will always have!!!- that special atmosphere able to attract so many ppl...no matter who the winner is or could be! I've got 1 question, have you ever been to the French Open? Do you know how it feels? I hope you're not saying what you said only because you think that clay's not worth mentioning and that only the 3 other GS are worthy...

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Roger Federer needs to win the French Open so inject some validity back into it. Or even an Andy Roddick success there would be welcomed too, especially since he is already a US Open champ and is recognized in the States.
To make it clear, I have nothing against the 2 players you mentioned, but, I doubt that a victory from them at the FO would change anything to its significance or validity...call it whatever you want.

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The last time that a French Open champion won another slam other than the French Open was Andre Agassi in 1999.

So since then, all the French Open champions have only been able to win at the French Open.

This is becoming a problem for men's tennis because audiences aren't simply recognizing French Open champs anymore. It's becoming the black sheep of men's grand slams.

This of course started with Pete Sampras and his legacy. He never won there and he was the premier player that the American audiences recognized.

Now, you have players like Kuerten, Costa, Ferrero, Nadal winning the French Open. All Spanish and South American players. And the grand slam could be seen as becoming too specialist and losing its significance.

Roger Federer needs to win the French Open so inject some validity back into it. Or even an Andy Roddick success there would be welcomed too, especially since he is already a US Open champ and is recognized in the States.

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Get real dude?
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I forgot it's an alarming stat that Borg was the last guy to win Wimbledon and RG in the same year.

This means that if Fed wins RG, he probably won't win Wimbledon in the same year, that is truly alarming.
saying that that guy from the landlocked country won't be able to do it.. you don't see Fed as a deserving successor to Bjorn?
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Roger Federer needs to win the French Open so inject some validity back into it. Or even an Andy Roddick success there would be welcomed too, especially since he is already a US Open champ and is recognized in the States.

i must agree with everyone else...to say that the players that you mentioned "are not recognised by people" is pretty ridiculous. those are all current or former top 10 players!! if "people" are the non-tennis world -- i think the problem becomes one of poor international sports coverage in whatever country you live

and if this is truly your theory -- i think that Nadal will blow your ideas to hell within the next few years...
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You all act like there is no truth to what Sam says. Withstanding the leap of logic, he brings quite a point that many here have been telling for a while.

Why FO dirt ballers don't win other slams? As long as Nadal keeps playing till august on clay, this aint gonna change. And it is time to see these FO CHAMPIONS do something on other surfaces as well !!
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You all act like there is no truth to what Sam says. Withstanding the leap of logic, he brings quite a point that many here have been telling for a while.

Why FO dirt ballers don't win other slams? As long as Nadal keeps playing till august on clay, this aint gonna change. And it is time to see these FO CHAMPIONS do something on other surfaces as well !!
I agree with this post, and I hope Rafa or Roger or whoever wins it next wins another slam outside RG.

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