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ESPY Awards Nominations (Roger left off the Male Athlete Award)

Best Male Athlete for 2004:

Peyton Manning
Vijay Singh
Lance Armstong
Micheal Phelps
Bode Miller

WHERE IS ROGER? He freakin' won 3 majors last year, 10 or more titles, the Master Shield and a 74-6 record.

Peyton Manning threw 49 touchdowns, but NO RING!!
Vijay Singh won 1 major and won 10 titles, year end #1
Lance Armstong won the Tour De France; wow 1 race
Micheal Phelps won 6 Golds in swimming
Bode Miller: no idea other than he is a good skier

I'm sorry, but ESPY is ridulous!! Not to mention that Roger won the Laureus Award!!
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Let's see: 4 Americans, and a guy from Fiji, who plays 95 percent of his matches on American soil.
I'm surprised they call this the ESPY award and not the World Athlete award!

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Re: ESPY Awards Nominations (Roger left off the Male Athlete Award)

lol it's not like the ESPYs actually mean anything.

All I'll say is.... The Tour de France is hardly just "1 race" - I'd like to see Roger bike through France for a month like that. Not to say that Roger is not an incredible athlete, but calling it just "1 race" is a huge underestimation of that accomplishment, IMO.

Bode Miller won the World Championships in skiing I believe - and he may have been the first American to do it in a long time. But I don't really follow skiing, I just remember when he won the world cup or whatever it's called in skiing and it was a big deal in the American press.

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Huge mistake, I agree. Wasn't Andy put on that list in 2003? Did he end up winning that? Or maybe that was best male tennis player. In any case, Roger certainly earned it; 3 majors and how many outside titles?


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lol it's not like the ESPYs actually mean anything.

All I'll say is.... The Tour de France is hardly just "1 race" - I'd like to see Roger bike through France for a month like that. Not to say that Roger is not an incredible athlete, but calling it just "1 race" is a huge underestimation of that accomplishment, IMO.

Bode Miller won the World Championships in skiing I believe - and he may have been the first American to do it in a long time. But I don't really follow skiing, I just remember when he won the world cup or whatever it's called in skiing and it was a big deal in the American press.
Here we go again. Cycling is a season long event, drawing big crowds from March until November awards. Out of this year there are traditionally the 3 biggest races (Giro d'Italia, Vuelta d'Espagna and the Tour de France). For some reason in the last 2 decades the Tour has been hyped to big proportions, but it's still only one event. Lance Armstrong is unique in the fact that he focuses his entire season around the Tour de France, giving him an advantage to those cyclists who bother to show up on the lesser races.
Even at the Tour, Lance has the advantage of having the richest and thus the strongest team surrounding him. He is surrounded by teammates 95 percent of the race and only has to work in 2 timetrials and in the last 5 kilometers of one or two predestined mountain tracks.
Comparing Armstrongs accomplishments of 2004 with Roger's is ludicrous. Roger performed all year long, won on every surface and had to battle it out alone.
Having said that, I have a lot of respect for Lance Armstrong for overcoming cancer and being a beacon of hope and inspiration for many across the world. I just think his accomplishments on a bicycle are hugely overrated.

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Here we go again. Cycling is a season long event, drawing big crowds from March until November awards. Out of this year there are traditionally the 3 biggest races (Giro d'Italia, Vuelta d'Espagna and the Tour de France). For some reason in the last 2 decades the Tour has been hyped to big proportions, but it's still only one event. Lance Armstrong is unique in the fact that he focuses his entire season around the Tour de France, giving him an advantage to those cyclists who bother to show up on the lesser races.
Even at the Tour, Lance has the advantage of having the richest and thus the strongest team surrounding him. He is surrounded by teammates 95 percent of the race and only has to work in 2 timetrials and in the last 5 kilometers of one or two predestined mountain tracks.
Comparing Armstrongs accomplishments of 2004 with Roger's is ludicrous. Roger performed all year long, won on every surface and had to battle it out alone.
Having said that, I have a lot of respect for Lance Armstrong for overcoming cancer and being a beacon of hope and inspiration for many across the world. I just think his accomplishments on a bicycle are hugely overrated.
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Huge mistake, I agree. Wasn't Andy put on that list in 2003? Did he end up winning that? Or maybe that was best male tennis player. In any case, Roger certainly earned it; 3 majors and how many outside titles?
Yup, he won it in 03.

Roddick. American. ESPY Awards. There's obviously a trend you should be able to see and Federer doesn't quite fit in.

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Yup, he won it in 03.

Roddick. American. ESPY Awards. There's obviously a trend you should be able to see where Federer doesn't quite fit in.
No, he didn't. Agassi won best tennis player award in 2003. Best male athlete that year went to..........drum rolls...... Lance Armstrong!

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I think that Lance Amstrong and Micheal Phelps do deserve to be on the list. What they have accomplished are really amazing. But so as Roger Federer. It is really ridiculous that he's not even mentioned. I wonder if ESPN even knows how truely amazing was Roger's accomplishment last year. I guess not. But then again, ESPN is so pro-American that I am not even that suprised.
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No, he didn't. Agassi won best tennis player award in 2003. Best male athlete that year went to..........drum rolls...... Lance Armstrong!
What did Andy win then? I remember watched it and I know he won something.

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this is pathetic. if Duckboy had done half of what Roger did they would have remembered to include him. this totally sucks.

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Best Male Tennis Player -- Andy Roddick
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Oh, 2004.

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Espy's are stupid. Roger should have been at least nominated.

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What did Andy win then? I remember watched it and I know he won something.
He won the tennis player award last year for finishing #1 in 2003.

The nominations for Male Tennis Player this year are Roger, Andy, Rafa, and Marat.

Look you can call the Tour de France "one event" but it lasts for a whole month, Lance won it SIX times in a row and he is a CANCER SURVIVOR. I'm not saying Roger didn't deserve to be nominated but I don't know who you'd take off that list. I checked, and Bode Miller is the first American to win the World Cup in skiing in 22 years and only the 2nd person ever to win a whole bunch of events in one season. Sounds like a pretty similar accomplishment to Roger's, plus he's cute and charismatic and American. The ESPYs are an American show, they're always going to favor Americans. Football is a worshipped sport here and will ALWAYS go over tennis - Peyton Manning is a HUGE Star, whether he won the Super Bowl or not. I hate football so I'd much rather see a tennis player - any tennis player - on the list instead of a football player, but that's not the way it is here, unfortunately. And Michael Phelps is also a HUGE star who gets TONS of attention and he put in a fantastic effort at the Olympics.

But like I said in my first post, the ESPYs don't mean anything anyway - they're allegedly fan-voted, etc. The Laureus awards are far far more important. It's like comparing the Oscars to the Peoples Choice Awards. I really doubt that Roger feels slighted by this.

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