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Re: Muller def. Nadal 64 46 63 64

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youre actually comparing him to sampras in wimbledon? nadal is a grinder, sampras in an all court player.. go figure...
I am not comparing players.. I am comparing results.. Besides, let Nadal beef up his first serve a bit, and his game on grass will take a completely different look. He is taller than Sampras. He is strong. At his age Hewitt served not bigger than he does now. Just a matter of very possible improvement.
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ys! Your twisted obsession with Nadal is starting to get rather pathetic! I suggest that you go outside and get a life! Hmph! *insert some garbled comments in here*

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I am full of sympathy to claycourters trying hard to improve on grass.. If anything, I really want Ferrero to win few more matches.. Wait .. Even two more matches would be .. good..
Clearly you are also rooting for grasscourt King Guillermo Coria

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Seriously, some of Nadal's strengthes - such as huge topspin are pretty much neutralized by grass - while some of them - such as precision on passing shots - stay , and some of them - such as footspeed can be even magnified on the surface if he adjusts his movement. Really, what can Hewitt do that Nadal can't?
Nadal is so determined and talented that it would be a shock to me if in two years we don't see a whole different Nadal out there on grass. Obviously his core game isn't going to change - he's not going to become a s-v player But as you have noted, he has strengths that he can employ and areas to improve for grass. I fear that he may do so at the expense of his clay game, but we'll see.

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Clearly you are also rooting for grasscourt King Guillermo Coria
At Wimbledon? Yes.. He tries, he fights, he wins.. Unlike all kind of gaudios..


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Nadal is so determined and talented that it would be a shock to me if in two years we don't see a whole different Nadal out there on grass. Obviously his core game isn't going to change - he's not going to become a s-v player But as you have noted, he has strengths that he can employ and areas to improve for grass. I fear that he may do so at the expense of his clay game, but we'll see.
It will only make him more of a complete player. When was the last time a true s&v player won Wimbledon? Edberg? Because Sampras, Ivanisevic, Krajicek were S&v He can improve his serve. It'll instantly make hima threat..
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respectable run?? out in the second round beating a Spadea who wasn't 100%. hmm.. hardly respectable for a 4th seed !
Yes, that's a called a respectable run for Nadal, while Federer losing in the SF of the French Open is a huge blotch on his career.

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At Wimbledon? Yes.. He tries, he fights, he wins.. Unlike all kind of gaudios..




It will only make him more of a complete player. When was the last time a true s&v player won Wimbledon? Edberg? Because Sampras, Ivanisevic, Krajicek were S&v He can improve his serve. It'll instantly make hima threat..
There isn't a doubt in my mind that he will improve his serve. It looks a tad silly for him to serve as hard as Justine H-H, doesn't it?

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Re: Muller def. Nadal 64 46 63 64

Out of topic but I just saw Nadals post interview match, he was absolutely cute. One of the commentators complimented him about how well his English was, and he said he studies English for 20 minutes every night, and that he would play in the Davis Cup if his presence was required. It was so cute, the way he said it made it sound like he would not be a top choice, duh kid. I think you are currently the best tennis player in Spain.

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Sampras did S&V on at least 95% of his service points on grass and was a darn good volleyer.
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Out of topic but I just saw Nadals post interview match . . . . he said he studies English for 20 minutes every night
That sounds like he meant his post-match press conferences are his English lessons -- because he said after each match he has this lesson.
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Muller reminds me of how Marco Mirnegg might look, if he had more hair
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That sounds like he meant his post-match press conferences are his English lessons -- because he said after each match he has this lesson
I think that's what he meant too.

He actually has a pretty nice sense of humor, in particular when you consider that he is doing so in a language that he is around 3/4 fluent in. It was cute in the interview when a reporter commented that his English has improved and he said right away "I study two hours every night!" He was joking, and it was actually pretty funny. I do enjoy Nadal's interviews.

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On to Muller- I've read that he was the number 1 junior a couple of years ago- when he was the finalist at jr. W and won the jr. USO. Has anyone seen him enough to know if he could rise up and get more solid results in the future? I know he beat Agassi in Washinton last year, but didn't see the match so don't know how he played.

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Great upset Gilles Muller!

You can go far in wimbledon if you keep up this great performance.

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Nadal sucks
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Re: Muller def. Nadal 64 46 63 64

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I am not comparing players.. I am comparing results.. Besides, let Nadal beef up his first serve a bit, and his game on grass will take a completely different look. He is taller than Sampras. He is strong. At his age Hewitt served not bigger than he does now. Just a matter of very possible improvement.
oh my mistake.. cause i thought you were actually comparing him saying that sampras had a worst result in his first two years and stuffs..

and i think its not the first serve thats troubling him more, its the second serve..

but i doubt he would do consistently well on grass.. given a good draw and luck yeah he could have a good run and once deep in the draw youll never know but i think he would always be more focused on the french every year becuase thats where he has the most chance to win and when he suceeds there which obviously he could do in a consistent manner lots of energy is already spent and few would be left for wimbledon thats the reason i think federer wont do consistently well on the french open also because his main focus is wimbledon..
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