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Australian Open 3 4.92%
French Open 11 18.03%
Wimbledon 26 42.62%
US Open 21 34.43%
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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 06-15-2005, 08:04 PM Thread Starter
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Question So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

Again, a question raised in the W's mailbag...

Maybe this question would be better posed in August, but is it me or does the U.S. Open crown the best champions? Unlike Wimbledon, Roland Garros and the Australian Open, there are few U.S. Open winners who have only won one Major. Roddick and Svetlana Kuznetsova are the only ones who come to mind from the past decade, and they are still young.
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Yeah, I agree. I think the democratic surface is the key. The slow-courters can still play their game. The hard-court types -- Roddick, Pete Sampras -- can bang away and get plenty of pop on their serve. The serve-and-volley types -- Stefan Edberg, Patrick Rafter -- can even do their thing. So why (at least until recently) have we seen fluky champs at the Australian, another event played on a hard surface? I think it's partially due to the scheduling. So early in the season, a lot of players have yet to find grooves.

Also, if Roddick and Kuznetsova are your "one-hit wonder" champs, it's sort of akin to by faint damnation. Roddick finished 2003 -- the year he won the U.S. Open -- ranked No. 1, won multiple TMS events and reached the Wimbledon finals the next year. Kuznetsova ain't exactly chopped liver. (But so long as you brought her up, how painful must the second week of Roland Garros have been for her to watch?)
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Re: So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

i do not think so
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Re: So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

If you look at the winners at the Australian Open, since the tournament moved to Melbourne and switched to rebound ace there have only been two one-time Slam winners on the men's side (Petr Korda and Thomas J.). Most of the big names (Sampras, Agassi, Federer, Becker, Lendl, Wilander, etc) have all won the Aussie.

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wimbledon has the greatest champions and the greatest moments

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Re: So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

Wimby produces good champions, the rest have too many 1 slam wonders.

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Wimby produces good champions, the rest have too many 1 slam wonders.
Wimbledon have too many 1 slam wonder.

Hardcourts are the democratic surface, no doubt.

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Wimbledon have too many 1 slam wonder.
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Re: So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

Michael Stich, Richard Kraijeck, Goran,
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Re: So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

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Michael Stich, Richard Kraijeck, Goran,
those are too few to count as "too many 1-slam wonders"
If anyone has hard facts about which slam has produced the most 1-slam wonders, I'd appreciate reading about it

I would guess its the French Open
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Re: So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

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Wimbledon have too many 1 slam wonder.

Hardcourts are the democratic surface, no doubt.
that's Wrong

In the Open era (1968 on), altogether 22 players have won only one slam and no slam again

Of these, ten (which is 45%) have come at the French Open, and that is more than at any other slam

EDIT: what do you mean to imply by hardcourts being democratic? fewest 1-slam wonders?

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So much for "democratic" hard courts
I think that what Melvins intended was that hardcourts tend to be more well rounded and have people who can also succeed on other courts because it's not to fast or too slow.

I could be wrong though
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I think that what Melvins intended was that hardcourts tend to be more well rounded and have people who can also succeed on other courts because it's not to fast or too slow.

I could be wrong though
I took another look, you could be right
nevertheless Wimbledon is not the factory of the 1-slam wonders
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Re: So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

I can think of more "one slam wonders" at Wimbledon off the top of my head than the USO.

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Re: So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

this is a vague list, because it includes current players and of course they may become multi-slam wonders

but as of today, the one-slam list makes USO the least likely followed by W, FO as the most likely and aussie as the second most likely:

Albert Costa 2002 French Open
Juan Carlos Ferrero 2003 French Open
Gaston Gaudio 2004 French Open
Carlos Moya 1998 French Open
Michael Chang 1989 French Open
Andres Gimeno 1972 French Open
Andres Gomez 1990 French Open
Thomas Muster 1995 French Open
Yannick Noah 1983 French Open
Adriano Panatta 1976 French Open
rafael Nadal 2005.... JUST KIDDING

Thomas Johansson 2002 Australian Open
Mark Edmondson 1976 Australian Open
Vitas Gerulaitis 1977 Australian Open
Roscoe Tanner 1977 Australian Open
Brian Teacher 1980 Australian Open
Petr Korda 1998 Australian Open

Richard Krajicek 1996 Wimbledon
Michael Stich 1991 Wimbledon
Pat Cash 1987 Wimbledon
Goran Ivanisevic 2001 Wimbledon

Andy Roddick 2003 U.S. Open
Manuel Orantes 1975 U.S. Open
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Re: So, does the US Open produce the best champions?

Not kidding dear, wishing. But he does belong on that list for the time being.

Most of the Wimbledon one-slam wonders were pretty damn good. Krajicek made the semis at every slam except the USO. Goran got to number 2 and made several slam finals.

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