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Question Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

I think beating Rafa on clay is much more difficult; because he is more invincible on clay than Federer on grass. Also I think that Federer will be beaten in this year's Wimbledon and his grass winning streak will come to an end.
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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

Federer hasn't lost a grass court match since what, Wimbledon '02? Nadal just lost a clay court match in April. You tell me who is tougher right now.

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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

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I think beating Rafa on clay is much more difficult; because he is more invincible on clay than Federer on grass.
Excuse me, but I am not so sure where you get this idea. If you are purely going by their records, Rafa has lost a match on clay twice this year, and Fed hasn't lost on grass the last two years and running.

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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

On what basis do you predict Federer will lose at Wimbledon? Losing a semifinal on clay to Nadal,a match he could have won from 1 set all but for an unusual number of unforced errors at crucial stages? What has this to do with grass,a surface that is worlds apart. Maybe you have a crystal ball?


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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

I am not looking at their win-loss records. I got this idea when they both play at their best in clay and grass respectively. According to me Rafa's play is much more dominant on clay than Federer's on grass.
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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

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According to me Rafa's play is much more dominant on clay than Federer's on grass.
You must be the ATP tour player and played both of them on clay/grass

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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

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I am not looking at their win-loss records. I got this idea when they both play at their best in clay and grass respectively. According to me Rafa's play is much more dominant on clay than Federer's on grass.

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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

This is a difficult question to ask because the quality of grass players is better than that of clay.

In other words, there's more grass players who have a chance of beating Federer, than clay players beating Nadal.

So you can't say Nadal is better on clay than Federer is on grass.

To answer the question, it's more likely Nadal wins RG than Federer winning Wimbledon.
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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

I think that Federer is harder to beat on grass than Rafa on clay. JMHO.

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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

The more difficult is to beat me on ice.
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The more difficult is to beat me on ice.
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Sergei Federov's wrist shot says otherwise
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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

Beating Rafa on clay is going to be harder. Rafa's type of game and the restraints of clay will require a great deal of effort on your part physically. Rafa's not going to give you any cheap points and you are going to have to win long rallies. It's going to require alot of running, and superb shot making, game in and game out for a number of hours. Many oppoents like Ferrer, Puerta, etc can take a set off Rafa but are exhausted for the next 3 or 2 (depending on tourny) and are dead tired. The only player who lasted with Rafa like that this year was Coria and even he lost.

Beating Federer on Grass is much more cut and dry. If you can serve big and return big, you can blow Roger off the court. It will be challenging for obivous reasons but not like what it takes to beat Nadal. Bully Roger around and he will lose and it won't take half as long on grass due to the pure nature of the surface.

Clearly beating Roger on Grass is easier.

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Mate, it's me Pavel... I'm the "Russian Rocket" at Ice tennis...
Odd, well your first post led one to belive you were the goalie, lol

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Re: Which is harder?Beating Rafa on clay or beating Federer on grass?

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Odd, well your first post led one to belive you were the goalie, lol
Ah no, I really meant at tennis on ice... (have to take my pills )
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