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How Strict is Anti-Doping in the ATP

I was just wondering how typical the tests are. Is there any routine, or is it just random testing? I mean this in the least offensive way possible, but I would be testing Nadal straight away. It just shocks me that he got so huge in less than 6 months (He has always been muscular, but just check out some photos from 04. You'll see what I mean). It is probably just due to strict workout and diets, so I am not by any means accusing him of taking drugs of any sort.
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You have never seen Nadal's family then have you? They are massive in size.

Tennis testing could be better and it helps to come from certain countries. I remember when Rios said if Agassi failed a doping test, it would be covered up and the ATP would do their best to protect him.

The lower ranked the player is, the more likely they will get caught. There is a list somewhere on the ATP site of which players got tested within the year.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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It can't be very strict, otherwise Muster would have been caught

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It's a sport after all and while it is very important for the players, the only reason they make money (and I mean tennis as a whole) it's because it's entertainment for us, the fans. So if we're watching, I rather watch something that pleases the eye, who gives a shit if a BOSS hotass model takes 5 more seconds in geting the ball to the player in Madrid? I'd rather wait those extra 5 seconds seeing those boobies bounce than watching some fatass kid burn away his bigmac meal.

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lol, I knew this was about to come
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It can't be very strict, otherwise Muster would have been caught
Are you friends with Pat Cash are we?

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Are you friends with Pat Cash are we?
Pat and me...?
We're just having a beer (or rather a sniff when it comes to Pat )together at the moment

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It's a sport after all and while it is very important for the players, the only reason they make money (and I mean tennis as a whole) it's because it's entertainment for us, the fans. So if we're watching, I rather watch something that pleases the eye, who gives a shit if a BOSS hotass model takes 5 more seconds in geting the ball to the player in Madrid? I'd rather wait those extra 5 seconds seeing those boobies bounce than watching some fatass kid burn away his bigmac meal.

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Pat and me...?
We're just having a beer (or rather a sniff when it comes to Pat )together at the moment
Yes, good to know.

The Closet Man reckoned Muster was on the juice as well, too bad he passed a drug test after he beat him in Monte Carlo.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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lol, I knew this was about to come
Rafa has to be on the drugs he trained with Muster ( an alleged drug cheat) and Wilander ( a cokehead).

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Rafa has to be on the drugs he trained with Muster ( an alleged drug cheat) and Wilander ( a cokehead).
Yes, that was one of the excuses I had expected not used yet. Anyway that one of the darkness takes the top spot for my taste.
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Yes, that was one of the excuses I had expected not used yet. Anyway that one of the darkness takes the top spot for my taste.
We knew it was coming and not disappointed in that regard.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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lol, I knew this was about to come
Geez People get so defensive when others say anything remotely against their favourite players.

I never said Nadal was on drugs, I just said that it shouldn't be ruled out. Any player could be on drugs
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Geez People get so defensive when others say anything remotely against their favourite players.

I never said Nadal was on drugs, I just said that it shouldn't be ruled out. Any player could be on drugs
You might as well have said Nadal was on the juice. He is actually not that big and they are all gay and doped up.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Geez People get so defensive when others say anything remotely against their favourite players.

I never said Nadal was on drugs, I just said that it shouldn't be ruled out. Any player could be on drugs
I mean this in the least offensive way possible, but I would be testing Nadal straight away. It just shocks me that he got so huge in less than 6 months (He has always been muscular, but just check out some photos from 04. You'll see what I mean).
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They have already tested him in Barcelona and Rome, you are not the first one in thinking so. But it so happens that the Nadal's males are very muscular and strong by nature and Rafa was the strongest kid in school when growing up. Rafa has said many times to the press that his physique is due to rigorous workouts and genetics. I think that they know most people think he has shoot some hormones, but I highly doubt it.
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as a rule of thumb, the lesser ranked and famous you are , the stricter you should be expected to be tested... Rezvan Sabeau had once the surprise of his life when the ATP showed up at his doorstep at 6:00AM on a Sunday morning for a random test, while recovering from surgery in Romania... also, being cleared on a drug test or even being caught do not mean you're actually clean or that the positive results will be made public, as the BALCO scandal and the official cover-up of the Carl Lewis' and other athletics stars from the 80's and 90's failures have recently demonstrated...
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