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Why Federer will win RG....

I will not give you a long article or any reasons at all, just these facts:

2003:Federer wins wimbledon, having only been to qf before on the tournament. Many people said he would never win any grand slam at all and that he is a waste of talent before this.

2004:Federer wins both AO and Usopen having never won a hardcourt master series or been to a semifinal in a hardcore grand slam before. Many people said Roddick was the king on hardcourt and that Federer's tennis style only worked very good on grass.

2005:Federer has already won 3 master series on clay actualy but people are saying he can only play good in hamburg and that he will probably never win in RG and definetly not this year.

2003:Federer overcomes his weak results on grass.
2004:Federer overcome his weak results on hardcourt.
2005:Federer overcomes his weak results on clay?


This is not a good reason in itself actualy, but it is a good reminder to people who thinks Federer is 28 years old and desperately trying to do good on the surface he never overcame in his career. Federer is actualy only 23 years old and constantly developing and also overcoming his difficulties on different surfaces and against players (Hewitt, NAlbandian, Henman, Agassi, Ferrero) all the time. He is 41-2 this year, there is no reason why one can't belive he will overcome former difficulties in RG. Since the time he won his 1st grandslam he has only tried one time and failed against Guga and people are saying he is like Sampras? Or just slightly better?

Is that wishful thinking from people, or what?

Prediction for the rest of the decade:
Federer winner: Usopen 05, 06, 07, 09 Aopen:06, 07, 10 Roland GArros:06, 08 Wimbledon:05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 (Roddick always runner up)
Safin winner: Aopen 08 Gasquet winner: USopen 08, Aopen 09, RG: 10
Nadal winner: RG 07 Monfils winner: USopen 10
Guga winner: RG 2010
Roddick and Hewitt together winner of: 3 sidney, 4 Adelaide, 3 washington, 3 san jose, 3 indianapolis, 2 houston, 2 memphis, 5 queens and one master series title (where Safin, Agassi, Federer and Nadal happens to all be injured).
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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

It is ok you don't think Federer will win RG, but some think he never will and they are overconfident about it, even arrogant I would say. I am also so tired having Federer and Sampras in the same sentence, I should erase this sentence aswell...

Prediction for the rest of the decade:
Federer winner: Usopen 05, 06, 07, 09 Aopen:06, 07, 10 Roland GArros:06, 08 Wimbledon:05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 (Roddick always runner up)
Safin winner: Aopen 08 Gasquet winner: USopen 08, Aopen 09, RG: 10
Nadal winner: RG 07 Monfils winner: USopen 10
Guga winner: RG 2010
Roddick and Hewitt together winner of: 3 sidney, 4 Adelaide, 3 washington, 3 san jose, 3 indianapolis, 2 houston, 2 memphis, 5 queens and one master series title (where Safin, Agassi, Federer and Nadal happens to all be injured).
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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

Whenever a player, no matter how accomplished, enters a 128 players draw odds are naturaly against him, let alone on his (traditionally) worst surface and with other (arguably) better players on the surface than him.

Let's just say even in my biased opinion he is not the first, second or even third favourite to grab the title, and even at Wimbledon I will not consider him an overwhelming favourite when his a-priori chances are 1 to 128.

All in all, a semifinal run will make me more than happy, but his 2nd round match terrifies me.
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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

I loved to read that writing, and it actually seemed logical to me.
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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

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It is ok you don't think Federer will win RG,...
Yes. Its an opinion.You have your.I have mine.

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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

Rogiman, I understand. But still, I have seen threads where people have been saying he will never win RG and that this year he simply WON'T WIN. That is crazy.

Prediction for the rest of the decade:
Federer winner: Usopen 05, 06, 07, 09 Aopen:06, 07, 10 Roland GArros:06, 08 Wimbledon:05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 (Roddick always runner up)
Safin winner: Aopen 08 Gasquet winner: USopen 08, Aopen 09, RG: 10
Nadal winner: RG 07 Monfils winner: USopen 10
Guga winner: RG 2010
Roddick and Hewitt together winner of: 3 sidney, 4 Adelaide, 3 washington, 3 san jose, 3 indianapolis, 2 houston, 2 memphis, 5 queens and one master series title (where Safin, Agassi, Federer and Nadal happens to all be injured).
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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

i hope your right Makro..
i cant see any problems playing Almagro, this guy has lost to Haas, F.Lo and stepanek on clay in the last month..
even this week he could only beat Karlovic 7-6 7-6 on clay
Gonzo in 3r... thats where it might get tough.
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Whenever a player, no matter how accomplished, enters a 128 players draw odds are naturaly against him, let alone on his (traditionally) worst surface and with other (arguably) better players on the surface than him.

Let's just say even in my biased opinion he is not the first, second or even third favourite to grab the title, and even at Wimbledon I will not consider him an overwhelming favourite when his a-priori chances are 1 to 128.

All in all, a semifinal run will make me more than happy, but his 2nd round match terrifies me.
Also, Federer is 41-2 this year. When a player have these statistics maybe odds simply are not against him when he enters grand slams. Ok, this is so far his weak surface, but for how long will it stay like this I am asking you? And most important how can some people be so sure this will forever stay as his weakness when he has in the past overcome praticaly all his weaknesses except this? Could he not overcome another past of weak results on a surface, a tournament or a player?

Prediction for the rest of the decade:
Federer winner: Usopen 05, 06, 07, 09 Aopen:06, 07, 10 Roland GArros:06, 08 Wimbledon:05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 (Roddick always runner up)
Safin winner: Aopen 08 Gasquet winner: USopen 08, Aopen 09, RG: 10
Nadal winner: RG 07 Monfils winner: USopen 10
Guga winner: RG 2010
Roddick and Hewitt together winner of: 3 sidney, 4 Adelaide, 3 washington, 3 san jose, 3 indianapolis, 2 houston, 2 memphis, 5 queens and one master series title (where Safin, Agassi, Federer and Nadal happens to all be injured).
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Rogiman, I understand. But still, I have seen threads where people have been saying he will never win RG and that this year he simply WON'T WIN. That is crazy.
Dismissing Federer is silly, but saying he will never win RG is (probabilty-wise) a pretty safe bet, and even though he's still pretty young we all know his best chances to take it all lay in the next 2-3 years, after that it will only make sense for him to focus more on the other majors where his chances are better, like Sampras (yes, him again ) did.
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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

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i hope your right Makro..
i cant see any problems playing Almagro, this guy has lost to Haas, F.Lo and stepanek on clay in the last month..
even this week he could only beat Karlovic 7-6 7-6 on clay
Gonzo in 3r... thats where it might get tough.
My opinion, too. Gonzo match could be tricky. Roger didn't beat him convincingly at Monte Carlo this year, and if Gonzo as usual plays like a crazy man, he might make it tougher than expected for Roger.

I've seen some people saying that it is way too early in Roger's career to achieve the career grand slam, but I wish he would get it over with NOW.

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One day he'll be blessed with the draw Coria and certain USTA guys enjoy.
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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

And also Roger had better win it this year, so Makro doesn't have to leave the board!

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Re: Why Federer will win RG....

Gonzales could be tricky, but Gonzales could just go crazy and loose in the 1st round aswell. He is not even sure as a 3rd round oponent.

Prediction for the rest of the decade:
Federer winner: Usopen 05, 06, 07, 09 Aopen:06, 07, 10 Roland GArros:06, 08 Wimbledon:05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 (Roddick always runner up)
Safin winner: Aopen 08 Gasquet winner: USopen 08, Aopen 09, RG: 10
Nadal winner: RG 07 Monfils winner: USopen 10
Guga winner: RG 2010
Roddick and Hewitt together winner of: 3 sidney, 4 Adelaide, 3 washington, 3 san jose, 3 indianapolis, 2 houston, 2 memphis, 5 queens and one master series title (where Safin, Agassi, Federer and Nadal happens to all be injured).
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And also Roger had better win it this year, so Makro doesn't have to leave the board!
Wow, thanx!

Prediction for the rest of the decade:
Federer winner: Usopen 05, 06, 07, 09 Aopen:06, 07, 10 Roland GArros:06, 08 Wimbledon:05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 (Roddick always runner up)
Safin winner: Aopen 08 Gasquet winner: USopen 08, Aopen 09, RG: 10
Nadal winner: RG 07 Monfils winner: USopen 10
Guga winner: RG 2010
Roddick and Hewitt together winner of: 3 sidney, 4 Adelaide, 3 washington, 3 san jose, 3 indianapolis, 2 houston, 2 memphis, 5 queens and one master series title (where Safin, Agassi, Federer and Nadal happens to all be injured).
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