Guillermo Vilas calculated as 1975 World Number 1 [ATP REFUSE THE TRUTH] - MensTennisForums.com
View Poll Results: Should the ATP accept the study and make Vilas world number 1 for 7 weeks?
Yes, history was written incorrectly. ATP should defend the players, not its old technology. 82 91.11%
No, history can only be written once. The original rankings no matter how bad, are more important. 8 8.89%
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Guillermo Vilas calculated as 1975 World Number 1 [ATP REFUSE THE TRUTH]

UPDATE May 26, 2015:

After months of negociations and presenting this to the ATP, I am sorry to report that the ATP has refused to accept this study.

The project's result is now public:

ATP Reiteration Project 1973-1978

The short form explanation for Vilas being number 1 is in the document VilasNo1Explanation.doc. But the project extended to the entire period 1973-1978. Many players have in fact a better ranking than their recorded one, others have a lower ranking. Many names are not even ranked in the ATP database, although they earned points. This was done entirely with the original ATP ranking system, no modification to historic facts of the time. The initial study concerning the category of tournaments is present along with the more acceptable study that does not alter any category originally used by the ATP, even though it is incorrect. In both accounts, Vilas is number 1 in 1975.

The study even presents a scenario in which no error is corrected, but rather focuses on some weeks in which no rankings were published. It is important to note that Vilas is number 1 even in this case, in which no actual error (although there were many) is corrected. The ATP missed this fact at the original time, and now refuse to accept it because technology did not permit them to detect this back in 1975. Even though, 2 years later, in 1977, they detected Borg becoming number 1 for a short period of time, and the periodicity of the rankings increased.

This is now for all of you to judge. The work done is impartial, if the tennis public considers this an injustice made to tennis, let them speak now and decide if the original rankings need to be correct or remain at their historical incorrect values. I am not the judge of history, tennis fans are, it is all your sport.

Here is the New York Times article:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/26/sp...-one.html?_r=0
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Fantastic stuff! Guillermo Vilas, former world #1

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Thank you soooo so much! Amazing work!
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Good Vilas was robbed of the #1 in 1977 by the ATP, which makes today's ATP seem honest No surprise he was robbed in 1975 too.

He's also been robbed by history, as his clay run was ended by an illegal racket while Nadull got his record with basically the modern equivalent of that racket. to think they used to ban rackets for creating too much spin
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Good Vilas was robbed of the #1 in 1977 by the ATP, which makes today's ATP seem honest No surprise he was robbed in 1975 too.
Definitely injustice here, but I doubt he was purposefully robbed. ATP were trying to make $$$$$, no surprise here. Having the Top Ranked player compete in a separate tour to all his main rivals offered a complication, which they tried to solve by having his tournaments be better known. When all that failed, they at least considered making them better known through the rankings. Eventually, all their plans failed and they had to ban all IPA tournaments from the rankings in 1976, which they did.

We shouldn't judge history so harshly. True, mistakes were made, but ATP really did learn from this in their struggle to make tennis better. In 1977, they sold their main tournament at Tucson/Palm Springs (which is held today at Indian Wells) to the Grand Prix and this minor battle has helped the GP take over most winter tournaments in 1977, weakening WCT to the point of merger in 1978.
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Seriously, no comment needed. Excellent work, as usual.

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The premise of this discovery is the fact that a rule determining the category of tournaments was not respected when it came to the newly formed Independent Players Association staring Connors, the 1975 year-start world number 1. For promotional purposes only, the tournaments have been artificially upgraded by one category, although in most cases the upgrade was unjustified in the quality of draw and prize money, which were the primary rule keepers of the time.
It was a pre-ATP tour consisting of several US tournaments. Just like the Grand Prix and the World Championship Tennis tours they were aiming to creating a great competing tour, but have not received the popularity they aimed for.
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Re: Guillermo Vilas calculated as 1975 World Number 1 [PRELIMINARY]

Now this I was not expecting. Vilas surely even greater than I had thought. 77 we all know he was robbed but 75 as well?

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Great work Slasher. I hope this fact gets some kind of acknowledgement
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But he lost 23 times against you.
's right. We have to also throw into the mix. But I do not think it is currently the decisive factor. But he has achieved in my opinion too much. Maybe this is crucial if I move him even closer after major victories. But 14 or 17 Grand Slam titles is a significant difference. At the present time there is no question that he must be the greater player than me.

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Can you please put all the data for the rankings (or at least the rankings themselves) in an sqlite file to allow for statistics on the rankings?

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