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Djokovic and Nadal's H2H against Berydich, Ferrer, Tsonga and Co

Djokovic and Nadal's individual H2H record against the likes of Birdshit, Del Potro, Wawrinka, Gasquet, Ferrer and Tsonga is as follows -

Djokovic's H2H is as follows against the mentioned above is 72 - 15

Nadal's H25 is as follows against the mentioned above is 78 - 15

This is abysmal and outright embarassing, I do not believe that slow courts enable these players to get whipped like some amateurs...this is downright disgusting...how two players can dominate those within the top ten like this is a joke!
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Tsonga is the only really threatening player. The rest are just weak talents, or in Berdych's case weak competitors.

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It would be better to remove Wawrinka and Gasquet. I mean Del Potro, Tsonga, Berdych and Ferrer are clearly better than them. Look at Wawrinka's and Gasquet's achievements, it's very poor compared to the Little Four.

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Yeah Federer's record against them is pretty much the same. Big 3 is at least two classes over the rest of the top 10.

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Re: Djokovic and Nadal's H2H against Berydich, Ferrer, Tsonga and Co

Against the Big Four, here are Del Potro, Tsonga, Ferrer, Berdych, Wawrinka and Gasquet's records.

1. Berdych : 17-47 (26.56%)
2. Tsonga : 13-36 (26.53%)
3. Del Potro : 14-39 (26.42%)

4. Ferrer : 15-53 (22.06%)


5. Wawrinka : 9-48 (15.79%)
6. Gasquet : 6-38 (13.64%)

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Against the Big Four, here are Del Potro, Tsonga, Ferrer, Berdych, Wawrinka and Gasquet's records.

1. Berdych : 17-46 (26.98%)
2. Tsonga : 13-36 (26.53%)
3. Del Potro : 14-39 (26.42%)

4. Ferrer : 15-53 (22.06%)


5. Wawrinka : 9-48 (15.79%)
6. Gasquet : 6-38 (13.64%)

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Against the Big Four, here are Del Potro, Tsonga, Ferrer, Berdych, Wawrinka and Gasquet's records AT SLAMS...

1. Tsonga : 5-9 (35.71%)

2. Berdych : 4-11 (26.67%)
3. Ferrer : 3-10 (23.08%)

4. Wawrinka : 2-10 (16.67%)
5. Del Potro : 2-12 (14.29%)


6. Gasquet : 0-10 (0.00%)

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Against the Big Four, here are Del Potro, Tsonga, Ferrer, Berdych, Wawrinka and Gasquet's records AT SLAMS...

1. Tsonga : 5-9 (35.71%)

2. Berdych : 4-11 (26.67%)
3. Ferrer : 3-10 (23.08%)

4. Wawrinka : 2-10 (16.67%)
5. Del Potro : 2-12 (14.29%)


6. Gasquet : 0-10 (0.00%)
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Gasquet has nothing that he could hurt the big 4 with. He did well to even get a few combined wins over that group. Ferrer doesn't have anything either apart from clay (minus Nadal), and Nadal alone on occasion on an indoor/very fast hard court type surface. Berdych is just too slow, and is a power player with not quite enough firepower to hit through the incredible defense of these players, especialy Nadal and Djokovic. Tsonga and Del Potro are the only ones with some semblance of game to beat and challenge the top 4.
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Not that surprising.

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They're simply too good,some ppl need to face reality instead of wishing for unrealistic things.

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Against the Big Four, here are Del Potro, Tsonga, Ferrer, Berdych, Wawrinka and Gasquet's records AT SLAMS...

1. Tsonga : 5-9 (35.71%)

2. Berdych : 4-11 (26.67%)
3. Ferrer : 3-10 (23.08%)

4. Wawrinka : 2-10 (16.67%)
5. Del Potro : 2-12 (14.29%)


6. Gasquet : 0-10 (0.00%)
Actually Jo's Slam record is pretty impressive. I hope he can make a strong comeback to form - it's too bad we haven't seen many highlights from him in 2012-13 but I think he's moved on past his prime.

Surprised Delpo's Slam record is so much worse than Berdych and Ferrer's. Just that one peak tournament.

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Djokovic.
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Del Potro.
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Gasquet has nothing that he could hurt the big 4 with. He did well to even get a few combined wins over that group. Ferrer doesn't have anything either apart from clay (minus Nadal), and Nadal alone on occasion on an indoor/very fast hard court type surface. Berdych is just too slow, and is a power player with not quite enough firepower to hit through the incredible defense of these players, especialy Nadal and Djokovic. Tsonga and Del Potro are the only ones with some semblance of game to beat and challenge the top 4.
This, pretty much. Although Ferrer doesn't match up terribly vs. Murray - he's pushed him so hard, can lure him into mega grinding battles, almost beat him at Wimbledon 2012.

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Actually Jo's Slam record is pretty impressive. I hope he can make a strong comeback to form - it's too bad we haven't seen many highlights from him in 2012-13 but I think he's moved on past his prime.

Surprised Delpo's Slam record is so much worse than Berdych and Ferrer's. Just that one peak tournament.
Tsonga was very strong this year. [Almost] On par with Federer and Berdych for the #5 spot in ATP Race Rankings, with grass, quite fast outdoor HC and indoor HC incoming, arguably his best part of the season... Maybe the injury prevents him to come back in the top 5, considering Berdych wasn't great after Wimbledon (except at Cincinnati) and Federer has waited Basel, Paris and London to come back to a decent level. I think Jo would have finished the year #5 or #6.

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