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Federer: 57 straight matches where he had match point....

This must be a record, is it not?

Also he had match points while serving when he lost.

Quite useless record, but it seems you can't beat Federer without a fight and also that Federer can't always take good advantage of situations when he can close the match.

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Federer winner: Usopen 05, 06, 07, 09 Aopen:06, 07, 10 Roland GArros:06, 08 Wimbledon:05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 (Roddick always runner up)
Safin winner: Aopen 08 Gasquet winner: USopen 08, Aopen 09, RG: 10
Nadal winner: RG 07 Monfils winner: USopen 10
Guga winner: RG 2010
Roddick and Hewitt together winner of: 3 sidney, 4 Adelaide, 3 washington, 3 san jose, 3 indianapolis, 2 houston, 2 memphis, 5 queens and one master series title (where Safin, Agassi, Federer and Nadal happens to all be injured).

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Re: Federer: 57 straight games where he had match point....

Impressive stats but then again Villas went a similar amount of matches without losing at all.
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Re: Federer: 57 straight games where he had match point....

No offence, but this is one record that is better ended sooner rather than later. Just think about it.

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ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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Re: Federer: 57 straight games where he had match point....

MTF should have useless facts subforum

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No offence, but this is one record that is better ended sooner rather than later. Just think about it.
I would rather he keep getting match points--and keep taking them--, so I don't want the streak to stop
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Re: Federer: 57 straight games where he had match point....

But that's exactly what I mean - the longer this streak were to go on, the more matches he would lose from matchpoint up, considering that he's obviously going to have defeats at certain points throughout a year. OK, so he said himself in Monte Carlo that when he starts losing 0 and 1 then he has cause to worry, but it can't be good to lose any more matches that have literally been on your racket.

The Wit and Wisdom of the Tennis Journalist, Indian Wells 2004

ROGER FEDERER: Yeah, I remember this one time when I went on a vacation on the Maldives. That was in the year 2001, I think. I went to this spa. I went to walk around with my girlfriend. I walk in, and we want to book a spa. This guy goes, "AHH, I remember you. You beat Sampras. I saw you on TV." That was like, really, how can you remember me? This guy has probably never been off his island and still knows me. I was a little bit shocked. Then I went to play tennis with him because he was actually the tennis teacher. It was nice.

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ROGER FEDERER: No. It was at the front desk. I didn't walk in naked.
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Re: Federer: 57 straight games where he had match point....

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But that's exactly what I mean - the longer this streak were to go on, the more matches he would lose from matchpoint up, considering that he's obviously going to have defeats at certain points throughout a year. OK, so he said himself in Monte Carlo that when he starts losing 0 and 1 then he has cause to worry, but it can't be good to lose any more matches that have literally been on your racket.
Oh but look at the odds
In my recollection, of these 57 where he held MP's, he lost two.
That's two of 57!!!! that's like 4% odds of losing if he reaches MP

I would be happy to see him keep getting to MP for the next 100 matches, and lose just 4
Would do it for me
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Impressive stats but then again Villas went a similar amount of matches without losing at all.
True.

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7 replies and no-one spotted the error in the title.

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Re: Federer: 57 straight games where he had match point....

Sjengster, I see what you are saying but one has to remember that normally, a player doesn't come anywhere close to winning this many matches. He's 77-4(!) since he lost to Guga at the FO. He has won almost every time and the times that he has lost he has also had match points. I don't look at it like he has lost match points, but that he has played well enough to get to match point in the first place. His 77-4 record shows that he has won most of those match points.
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7 replies and no-one spotted the error in the title.
I attribute it to English not being the first language.

I don't know if anyone has posted this but I believe that Federer has won more total points that all of his opponents since the Guga lost EXCEPT against Agassi at the USO. I believe he won more points that Safin, Richard Gasquet, Hrbaty, and Berdych. I could be mistaken about this. Crazy, crazy stuff.
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Re: Federer: 57 straight games where he had match point....

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I attribute it to English not being the first language.

I don't know if anyone has posted this but I believe that Federer has won more total points that all of his opponents since the Guga lost EXCEPT against Agassi at the USO. I believe he won more points that Safin, Richard Gasquet, Hrbaty, and Berdych. I could be mistaken about this. Crazy, crazy stuff.
I don't know about Hrbaty and Berdych but he had more points than Safin and Gasquet. Hm, did he have match points against those two? Hrbaty and Berdych?


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^No I don't think so, but I do know that he had a million break points or deuce chances against Hrbaty. I am pretty sure that he had more points than Hrbaty but it's close on the Berdych match.
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Re: Federer: 57 straight games where he had match point....

What a great statistic!!

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Re: Federer: 57 straight games where he had match point....

One thing everyone should remember about the matches against Gasquet and Safin is that whoever would have lost those 2 matches he would have lost amazing oppurtunities. Against both Gasquet and SAfin he saved match points on his own serve and on the serve of his opponent to come back from 5-2 in the last set. That is also very impressive, he saved 6 match points against Safin and 5 against Gasquet I belive. But in the end he lost.

Anyway I am quite sure GAsquet won more points than Federer in that match, while I am definetly sure Federer won many more points than Safin in the AO semifinal, but it is all about winning the important points, that is why tennis is played as it is and not 1st to 100 points wins the match, wouldn't that be boring?

Prediction for the rest of the decade:
Federer winner: Usopen 05, 06, 07, 09 Aopen:06, 07, 10 Roland GArros:06, 08 Wimbledon:05, 06, 07, 08, 09, 10 (Roddick always runner up)
Safin winner: Aopen 08 Gasquet winner: USopen 08, Aopen 09, RG: 10
Nadal winner: RG 07 Monfils winner: USopen 10
Guga winner: RG 2010
Roddick and Hewitt together winner of: 3 sidney, 4 Adelaide, 3 washington, 3 san jose, 3 indianapolis, 2 houston, 2 memphis, 5 queens and one master series title (where Safin, Agassi, Federer and Nadal happens to all be injured).
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