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How about everyone is hitting service winners in Shanghai as opposed to Beijing?
This..Wawrinka-Anderson 6-4 3-6...5-6 third set and they hit 13 and 18 aces respectively..that is best-of-5 matches ratio numbers..Balls are whizzing past the court..It is really fast down here..
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what's the surface by the way? it's only listed as 'Hard' on the pdf draw without any specifications
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these courts/balls are something..Nadal 6-3 4-1 now with 7 aces, Dolgo 6 aces..Roanic 7-6 2-3 with 14 aces..
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Re: Court-speed Shanghai vs Beijing

IIRC Murray said last year that Shanghai court is quick but they use heavy balls, so it ends up feeling medium, whereas Tokyo is slower court but light balls.
(Or vice versa).
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Nadal has just said in post-match interview that Shanghai is faster.
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So maybe they are using lighter balls this year.

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How about everyone is hitting service winners in Shanghai as opposed to Beijing?
the low bounce in Beijing was clear....its not just about the speed.. its a combination of fast court and low bounce.....I played once on a PLASTIC suface and the ball stayed VERY LOW..... it was a joke.....



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these courts/balls are something..Nadal 6-3 4-1 now with 7 aces, Dolgo 6 aces..Roanic 7-6 2-3 with 14 aces..
yes nadal 9 aces in two fast sets---I guess the balls is faster than Beijing but the surface is maybe close.....and higher bounce in Shanghai maybe



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Nadal has just said in post-match interview that Shanghai is faster.
yes the ball can be faster but question him about how high the ball is bouncing.....he didnt like at all the low bounce in Beijing.



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what's the surface by the way? it's only listed as 'Hard' on the pdf draw without any specifications
It was DecoTurf in previous years.

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At the beginning of the Nadal match the international feed announcers said Shanghai was faster than Beijing and nearly as fast as Tokyo, which they said was one of the fastest on the tour these days.

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The ball seems to bounce higher in Shanghai which is detrimental to Djoker's chances. Nadal is clearly the favorite when the bounce is higher.
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yes the ball can be faster but question him about how high the ball is bouncing.....he didnt like at all the low bounce in Beijing.
Exactly. The speed of the court doesn't matter nearly as much as the height of the bounce when it comes to Nadal.
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This..Wawrinka-Anderson 6-4 3-6...5-6 third set and they hit 13 and 18 aces respectively..that is best-of-5 matches ratio numbers..Balls are whizzing past the court..It is really fast down here..
then again some courts play differently even at one particular event

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