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An interesting stat that favours nadal

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- yeah, im a new account and i decided to open a new thread on my first message. however, i read here for long time and i have MA in relations between fed-rafa fans in MTF.

- yeah, im a rafa fan.

- fed is the greatest in history, in any possible star on the planet (calm down u fed fans).


Ive been thinking about this stat for some time and somehow i dont hear it said enough during all those silly discussions about "the greatest". therefore, i decided to do a short research and to bring you the percentege of a players GS titles within the number of GS apperances he has:

Rafa - 36% (13 out of 36)
Roger - 29% (17 out of 58)
Nole - 16% (6 out of 36)
Murray - 6% (2 out of 30)

The only one who comes in my mind that surpass rafa is borg (who has 40%. sampras has 26%). I know that im not surprising anyone here with this stats, but i do think that its something that we should pay attention to.
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Re: An interesting stat that favours nadal

Paella Fatbutt is only 27. Wait for his percentage at 30, if he even plays at that age.

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Welcome urkabi. Ignore some of the idiots here - this year has been a painful time for them.

You're right - it's an impressive stat. Nadal has been winning slams at a very fast pace from an early age. We can't know how he'd have have done if he didn't skip the slams he did but it has meant that his overall slam winning % is high. Obviously it'll decline a bit but I'm sure it'll stay far ahead of Novak, Roger etc. even when his career is done. Some Fed fans have been talking about Nadal's inevitable decline since 2005. Must be tough to be practically at the end of 2013 and he's still going strong....

Does seem bizarre that Novak and Rafa have played the same number of slams and that Murray has only played 6 less than Rafa given how Rafa has been on the tour since 2003 full time.
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Re: An interesting stat that favours nadal

Although Slade's comment is clearly subjective (as he hates Nadal to pieces), he is correct. Nadal's percentage (as well as Nole's, Federer's and Murray's) will modify as they age and they increase the number of GS appearances without winning a title. It is not final yet.
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Re: An interesting stat that favours nadal

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Although Slade's comment is clearly subjective (as he hates Nadal to pieces), he is correct. Nadal's percentage (as well as Nole's, Federer's and Murray's) will modify as they age and they increase the number of GS appearances without winning a title. It is not final yet.
Even if it's not final, it is so high, it will probably end above the rest, unless he keeps playing AND losing for many years.

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Ahahahahahahah

Slade and Slasher are correct.

What a thread..lol

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Re: An interesting stat that favours nadal

it's normal that dull's percentage is higher than rogers, because he's a early bloomer. he won his first slam 19 years old at his 6th slam-appearance. fed was almost 22 years old when he won wimbledon 2003, it was his 17th slam-appearance.

as slade said, the percentage will decrease with higher age.



percentage since they won their 1st slam:
dull 13/37 = 35,14%
fed 17/42 = 40,48%

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Re: An interesting stat that favours nadal

At one stage Federer was 16/43 = 37%.

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I think his percentage will obviously drop, but I doubt if it goes below 30%. He strikes me as a player who will very suddenly hit a wall physically and that'll be that career wise, but until such time he'll keep going at a fairly similar rate.

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Re: An interesting stat that favours nadal

Federer catch his 13th in his 38th slam (34.21%) and Sampras in his 43th (32.55%)

Nadal will be above a lot of players but it will be very close of Federer and Sampras.

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Re: An interesting stat that favours nadal

Nobody is disagreeing that it will drop, but Nadal is not going to keep playing for years and losing R1. He'll play maximum 12 more slams if he plays till the end of 2016 and if he wins a few - say 3, he'll still be 16 out of 48 (33%) which is still far higher than his opponents. So it'll drop but he'll not go below Roger, Novak etc. IMO.
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Re: An interesting stat that favours nadal

Not playing a slam is better than finishing runner-up, at least as far as this statistic is concerned.

I support Federer, Murray, Karlovic, Nishikori and some others.
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Although Slade's comment is clearly subjective (as he hates Nadal to pieces), he is correct. Nadal's percentage (as well as Nole's, Federer's and Murray's) will modify as they age and they increase the number of GS appearances without winning a title. It is not final yet.
Is stating the obvious really necessary?
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Is stating the obvious really necessary?
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