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Lol what kind of BS is this?

Nada is a better clay court player than Novak. Novak's at Nadal's mercy on clay.
Nadal is a better grass player than Novak. Novak's at Nadal mercy on grass.
Novak HC advantage over Nadal is slim:
(Nadal: 2-1 USO, 0-1 AO, 2-1 WTF, 1-0 Olympics).
However, overall Novak 12-7 on HC.

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So...Nadal is 2-1 on grass, and one of those wins was Novak retiring because of blisters from 2 consecutive 5 setters against Baggy and Lleyton (and he still took a set regardless). Last match they played Novak defetated him soundly in Wimby final and this year Novak played final while we all know how far Nadal advanced.
Yet...12-7 on HC is "slim" advantage but "Novak's at Nadal mercy on grass"???Woah, explain that pretty please.

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Apparently the amnesia from 2011 just dissipated yesterday.

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Not to discredit Nole, I like him as much as I like Rafa, but the court and Nadal playing so poorly are the two primary factors that let Nole take advantage and destroy Rafa. As we've seen over the years, faster, lower-bouncing courts favor Nole's game and slower, higher-bouncing courts favor Rafa's game. The court at USO this year was something of a pseudo-claycourt.
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1) I was talking about on hard.
2) Did you SERIOUSLY include the Olympics but not any of the Masters?
Did I include any of the masters on clay for that matter? No - the list is too extensive for both. A simple click on the ATP Tour has all the masters, clearly favoring Novak as the H2H record will show. Mentioning the H2H on Hard Court is enough. Unless you think mentioning the masters is more relevant than a major tournament like the Olympics, a once in a 4 year occurrence? Olympic gold, one of the most coveted awards for a tennis player. In Slams and major tournaments like the WTF and the Olympics - the advange on HC's is non-existent. USO, AO, WTF, Olympics - Nadal 5-3. Novak fans should know this. Now, if Novak fans want to gloat about the importance and value of masters please be my guest. It only strengthens Nadal case for GOAT.

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Yet...12-7 on HC is "slim" advantage but "Novak's at Nadal mercy on grass"???Woah, explain that pretty please.
Just did. Like I said, on grass there really isn't much to talk about. Nadal has the better resume, as well as the better H2H. It's common knowledge who's decisively better on that surface - Nadal. Maybe what's to blame for a larger sample size is a short grass season but even then there are other measures - which I mentioned.

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Did I include any of the masters on clay for that matter? No - the list is too extensive for both. A simple click on the ATP Tour has all the masters. Mentioning the H2H on Hard Court is enough. Unless you think the masters are more relevant than the Olympics, a once in a 4 year occurrence?
1000 points > 750 points

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1000 points > 750 points

Let's not go there
So 2 Master 1000 is equal that 1 GS...

Then Rafa is very close to be the GOAT, I guess, since he has a lot more masters than his rivals.

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No. Nadal simply couldn't hold him any more.
Also Nadal should be resting this time of year, no?
The price of being the no.1 is yet to be determined in Nadal's case.
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1000 points > 750 points

Let's not go there
You definitely don't want to go there.

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So 2 Master 1000 is equal that 1 GS...

Then Rafa is very close to be the GOAT, I guess, since he has a lot more masters than his rivals.
Yes, and four 250s = 1 slam

Please stop You're combining tournaments. You should be embarrassed.
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Yes, and four 250s = 1 slam

Please stop You're combining tournaments. You should be embarrassed.
He's just laughing at your suggestion that the Olympics is a lesser event than a Masters 1000 due to the ATP point system. I never seen Novak cry after losing a Masters semi-final before. Have you? You should be the one embarrassed by making stupid claims and trolling.

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He's just laughing at your suggestion that the Olympics is a lesser event than a Masters 1000 due to the ATP point system. I never seen Novak cry after losing a Masters semi-final before. Have you?
"Due to the point system." Yes, that silly point system

So if we want to know how much a tournament is worth, all we had to do is ask Novak? How about we replace everyone's point totals with "Novak Tears"

Milos Raonic is just 45 Novak Tears away from qualifying for the World Tour Finals
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He's just laughing at your suggestion that the Olympics is a lesser event than a Masters 1000 due to the ATP point system. I never seen Novak cry after losing a Masters semi-final before. Have you? You should be the one embarrassed by making stupid claims and trolling.
He even serrated all his racquets after that defeat and said he was one of most painful loss of his career. He just ashamed his country being the Serbian flag bearer and failing to carry a gold (or even a silver) to his home.
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"Due to the point system." Yes, that silly point system

So if we want to know how much a tournament is worth, all we had to do is ask Novak? How about we replace everyone's point totals with "Novak Tears"

Milos Raonic is just 45 Novak Tears away from qualifying for the World Tour Finals
Sometimes is better not to say anything in defeat instead of belittling a point to save face.

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Sometimes is better not to say anything in defeat instead of belittling a point to save face.
The ATP uses a point system to determine the worth of a tournament. You're using Novak's tears. You sound foolish.
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1000 points > 750 points

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The ATP uses a point system to determine the worth of a tournament. You're using Novak's tears. You sound foolish.

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Yes, and four 250s = 1 slam

Please stop You're combining tournaments. You should be embarrassed.

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