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Young should follow Gasquet's example...

Young already lost 6-1 6-4 against Calatrava in Houston. He hasn't won a match on ATP tour so far. Isn't it time for him to go back to Challengers and build some confidence à la Gasquet. We've seen in Monte-Carlo the pretty amazing results of this strategy: in his first ATP tourney of 2005, he succeeded where guys like Roddick or Hewitt failed since 2003: to beat Federer !
Wild cards are not always an opportunity to promising talents IMO.

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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Actually he should be in Futures events and not challengers.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


Wilander on Dimitrov - "He has mind set on imitating Federer and yes it looks good. But he has no idea what to do on the court".

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
Machado wins 6-2 6-1
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Tell me about it. I just wrote an article on the disadvantages of wildcard, questioning how much experience can Young get when he was there only to be butchered. To me, people try to push him to bloom too early and that may hinder his natural development as a whole.

I also mentioned that it's much more dignified to qualify for an event than getting privilege into it, citing examples of Baghdatis earlier this year at AO. If I had written the article two weeks later, Richard would become my prime example

One thing I like about both Richard and Rafa is that tho they both are known as prodigies since they entered the tour. They built themselves up from smaller events, qualifying, and not receiving privilege too often. They earn their place and that's why they deserve success.

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It's better starting out in the Futures and the Challengers, it's not glamorous, but then players learn about life on the tour and what it's about and how hard it is, instead of having everything given to them.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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I don't know if its an issue of his parents and/or IMG being desperate for money and or glory, or if they really think he's ready to play with the big boys (which we can all see he's not). I'd hate for the kid to destroy himself because of the actions of the adults around him.

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Professional Tennis at Age 15: Too Much to Young?
Many Wondering If Joining the ATP Hurts, Not Helps Teen's Progress
By Douglas Robson
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Monday, April 18, 2005; Page D05

He's 15, black, prodigiously talented and competing with men twice his age -- a boy in a man's world.

He isn't D.C. United's Freddy Adu, though the comparison is apt. He is America's latest tennis sensation, a lanky Chicago native named Donald Young Jr., whose list of age-defying accomplishments is breaking barriers.

"He's insanely talented," said Andy Roddick, the top-ranked U.S. player. "If you've watched him just strike the ball, the way he naturally feels it -- there's definitely something special there."

Forget Young's race, which automatically makes him an anomaly in tennis. Simply put, he may be the best 15-year-old male in the history of U.S. tennis.

Sixteen months ago, the 5-foot-10, 150-pound left-hander won the prestigious 16-and-under Orange Bowl title -- the first African American to do so -- and followed up by winning the Easter Bowl 18 singles crown last year. Not even Pete Sampras, who reached the Easter Bowl semifinal at 15, or John McEnroe, who won at 17, equaled that feat.

In January, Young became the youngest male to win a junior Grand Slam crown, capturing the boys' title at the Australian Open. That win also made him the youngest player to be No. 1 in the junior world rankings, a position he still holds.

Young turned pro last year, at 14, and he already has contracts with Nike, Head and sports management giant IMG.

"If he gets bigger and stronger, I predict him to be the top American and one of the top players in the world," said Nick Bollettieri, whose famed Florida academy (now owned by IMG) has produced Grand Slam champions Jim Courier, Andre Agassi and Monica Seles.

But unlike Adu, Young has been thrust into the upper echelons of the game by agents eager to earn him publicity and valuable tour experience, securing him a number of wild cards at top-tier tournaments this year. It would be like Adu trying to play in a top European league instead of gaining experience in MLS.

The result: A youngster who has rarely lost at any level has been battered like never before. Since his ATP Tour debut in San Jose in February, Young is 0-4 and has won more than five games in a match just once.

"I'm getting more games than I did the last couple times," Young said with a shrug after his 6-4, 7-5 loss to 56th-ranked Frenchman Jean-Rene Lisnard at last month's Nasdaq-100. "I'm getting a little more confident, I guess."

Young will try to boost his confidence and halt his four-match ATP losing streak today, when he takes on Spain's Alex Calatrava at the U.S. Men's Clay Court Championships in Houston, where he has received yet another wild-card entry into the main draw.

But the string of losses has led to speculation that Young is being pushed too hard too fast, and that it could ultimately damage his confidence.

"In my opinion, he's played too many of the bigger events," said U.S. Davis Cup captain Patrick McEnroe, who thinks Young would be better served playing smaller and lower-level Challenger and Futures events. "You can't let a kid go out there and lose one-and-one 10 times in a row. That's no fun. It can start to have a detrimental effect on his mental state."

Added 2003 U.S. Open champion Roddick, himself a highly touted prodigy and former No. 1 in the world junior rankings: "Is he ready to play week in and week out on the main tour? I don't think so, but I hope I'm proved wrong."

Those in his inner circle -- his agent, his parents, some USTA officials -- say Young is handling the mounting expectations, travel, attention and losses well.

"I keep things as basic as possible," said his mother, Illona, who home-schools her only child and lets him continue to play his beloved Xbox and engage in other teen activities.

Donald Sr. said his son is able to shake the losses off quickly by "taking it out on me around the court."

His agent, Gary Swain of IMG, whose company is responsible for getting Young the wild cards, dismissed the notion that the teenager is being pulled along too fast.

"We have not put pressure on Donald to win at the professional level but have given him opportunities [that he has earned] to accelerate his learning curve," Swain wrote in an e-mail.

Young has beaten two players ranked in the top 200 and is now ranked in the 600s. But despite his excellent court vision, superior movement and once-in-a-generation hand skills, he lacks the size and strength to compete with many pros.

"He's a boy playing a men's game," said American pro Jeff Morrison, a former NCAA singles champion from the University of Florida.

Off the court, Young seems split between the teen and adult worlds. In news conferences, he can seem distracted and immature; a minute later, he can sound like a jaded veteran: "A lot of people have told me that," he said of the praise heaped upon him, "but I just try to go out there and play my game."

Driven by their son's success, the Youngs relocated to Atlanta last year, where Donald Sr., a one-time player at Alabama State, took over a tennis academy with the help of IMG. Illona, also a former player, shares coaching and child-rearing duties with her husband.

"He's a pretty levelheaded kid," said Paul Roetert, managing director of the USTA's USA Tennis High Performance Program, which has been involved in Young's training. "His parents are doing a fabulous job."

Still, it's hard to know how much pressure Young is putting on himself. His court demeanor is revealing. He often engages in self-critical muttering, slouches his head on missed shots, constantly eyes his parents in the crowd and occasionally slams balls into the backstop.

Illona Young admits that there is no blueprint for an African American boy, or any boy, with Donald's skill. That has made their journey sometimes lonely, and certainly difficult.

It would seem logical that the Youngs might have sought advice from Richard Williams or Oracene Price, the parents of Venus and Serena Williams.

"No, never met them," said Illona. "Never talked with them."

She gets defensive when people criticize the decision to allow her son to turn pro so early -- a decision made because there was no competition left for Young, and the travel and other expenses were becoming prohibitive. There is no cookie-cutter approach to raising a prodigy, she says.

"It's very customized, personalized," she said.

But with such a heavy schedule of pro and junior tournaments -- Young will play top-tier junior events this year, including all the remaining Grand Slams, plus pro tournaments -- some worry he will burn out, or take the mounting losses too hard.

Asked about such concerns, Donald Sr. said: "That's their opinion. No comment."

What everyone is willing to comment on are Young's gifts. He has solid groundstrokes, an improving serve, moves well and isn't afraid to charge the net.

"He's one of the very few kids that actually comes to the net," said Bollettieri.

Much is also made of his size 12 1/2 feet, which suggests he has a lot more growing to do.

"The closest thing to a sure bet," said IMG's Swain.

Of course, tennis is littered with sure bets who failed to make an impact in the pros, such as Billy Martin, Scott Davis and Al Parker Jr., or early flameouts, such as Andrea Jaeger.

John McEnroe said it pays to be cautious when kids turn pro before they can even obtain a driver's permit.

"He's not fully developed, and I don't think he should be professional now, personally," said the three-time Wimbledon champion, who first met and hit with Young when Young was 10 and who spoke about him at the All England club last year. "But on the other side of the coin, I don't know his parents' financial situation. If someone is going to pay him, a Nike, a million dollars -- I'm just throwing out a number -- to use rackets or clothes or sneakers, who am I to say not to do it?"


Agassi, 34, who turned pro at 16, said that tasting top competition at a young age isn't always a bad idea.

"I wouldn't say it's necessarily a mistake to be out here taking your lumps, because it's what you have to face ultimately."

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Re: Young should follow Gasquet's example...

I think that is a very revealing article...i wish him the best, but it seems too much too soon. Maybe he will get through it and come out on top like Venus and Serena did a few years back...only time will tell.

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Gasquet example????
Gasquet should have played Challngers before, cos he has lost 1 or 2 years because of he played a lot of ATP events since he won a match in Montecarlo some years ago, the example to follow is Nadal who before playing MS or ATP played a lot of Futures and Challengers and then ATP events, Gasquet began with WC to ATP, then when he saw he couldn't do it began to play smaller tournaments
but Nadal is the best example, he is the best of his generation right now!

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Gasquet example????
Gasquet should have played Challngers before, cos he has lost 1 or 2 years because of he played a lot of ATP events since he won a match in Montecarlo some years ago, the example to follow is Nadal who before playing MS or ATP played a lot of Futures and Challengers and then ATP events, Gasquet began with WC to ATP, then when he saw he couldn't do it began to play smaller tournaments
but Nadal is the best example, he is the best of his generation right now!
I agree w/ your post...u have to work your way to the top. It's hard when you have people throwing money at you every which way...I say work hard now and make your money later.

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Gasquet example????
Gasquet should have played Challngers before, cos he has lost 1 or 2 years because of he played a lot of ATP events since he won a match in Montecarlo some years ago, the example to follow is Nadal who before playing MS or ATP played a lot of Futures and Challengers and then ATP events, Gasquet began with WC to ATP, then when he saw he couldn't do it began to play smaller tournaments
but Nadal is the best example, he is the best of his generation right now!
This is bullshit, you can check on ATP website, he played mostly Futures and Challengers apart from a few tournies in France, which is understandable, and clay South American season in 04.
In addition, this WC in Monte-Carlo made him the youngest player to win a TMS match, which will remain in his record as a milestone.

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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one good week and everyone should follow gasquet's example.
one more slam at the AO and safin was ready to take over as world no 1
one tms win and nadal is now ready to dominate on clay and win the french
one win in davis cup doubles and andy murray is the next best thing in britain

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but Nadal is the best example, he is the best of his generation right now!
But Richard proved the last week he has no cause to be jealous of him, at least in the game. Physically he can improve

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one good week and everyone should follow gasquet's example.
one more slam at the AO and safin was ready to take over as world no 1
one tms win and nadal is now ready to dominate on clay and win the french
one win in davis cup doubles and andy murray is the next best thing in britain
On Gasquet I'm sorry but it's pretty rare to see a young guy coming off of a Challenger, qualies, and beating the Unbeatable, the guy who lost once in 8 months... he didn't play an ATP match before MC ! Interesting to compare his run to Young losing streak at ATP level...

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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On Gasquet I'm sorry but it's pretty rare to see a young guy coming off of a Challenger, qualies, and beating the Unbeatable, the guy who lost once in 8 months... he didn't play an ATP match before MC ! Interesting to compare his run to Young losing streak at ATP level...
dont apologise. gasquet's performances were just unbelievable. but let him back that week up with some other good results before hailing him as richie le roi!
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dont apologise. gasquet's performances were just unbelievable. but let him back that week up with some other good results before hailing him as richie le roi!
Maybe a bit of pressure of not having a Frenchie in the Top 25 !

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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