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Re: "Speed up the courts and general court speed Thread"

The most damning thing about the top 4 marketing and all of that is the fact Arthur Ashe is a much slower court than the rest of the USO. We've seen top 4 players go out to Armstrong and struggle against good fast court players. Now if they sped Ashe up to the level it should be it would be a lot more interesting.

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I'm sensing here.
AO should have stayed Rebound Ace. I felt sorry for Noledal at the end of this year's final they looked like they were about to keel over- so much suffering, that shouldn't happen in tennis and probably played a big part in Nadal eventually missing half the year.

Madrid is going back to red clay.

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I'm sensing here.
Well there's about more than 60 or so courts just in the grand slams.

Well over hundred courts which have been slowed down to clay like level.
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AO should have stayed Rebound Ace. I felt sorry for Noledal at the end of this year's final they looked like they were about to keel over- so much suffering, that shouldn't happen in tennis and probably played a big part in Nadal eventually missing half the year.

Madrid is going back to red clay.
rebound ace was much better surface.

anyway , in 2013 the ball ewill be more faster in australia
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AO should have stayed Rebound Ace. I felt sorry for Noledal at the end of this year's final they looked like they were about to keel over- so much suffering, that shouldn't happen in tennis and probably played a big part in Nadal eventually missing half the year.

I thought on faster courts they wouldn't even had made the final? Isn't that what you are always saying?
I bet that Nadal and Djokovic prefer plying an exhausting long final than losing in 2nd round of a Slam.



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Madrid is going back to red clay.

Well, the colour has nothing to do with the pace. The red clay in Madrid was qute fast (for a clay court) as well. RG now is also faster than it used to be.

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Fed on Djokovic yesterday.

"What he does well - even in defence he stays somewhat offensive. That, I think, is what separates him from the rest a little bit."

A faster court would only have benefited Novak even more.
Against Federer? No way. You're deluded if you really think that. Against Murray and Nadal - probably yes.
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I thought on faster courts they wouldn't even had made the final? Isn't that what you are always saying?
I bet that Nadal and Djokovic prefer plying an exhausting long final than losing in 2nd round of a Slam.






Well, the colour has nothing to do with the pace. The red clay in Madrid was qute fast (for a clay court) as well. RG now is also faster than it used to be.
because this , the surfaces needs to be change , clay would be slow and fast courts , fast.
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Against Federer? No way. You're deluded if you really think that. Against Murray and Nadal - probably yes.
Federer's opinion > your opinion
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why guys do not go and watch Nalbandian vs Federer Shanghai 05 to see what high quality
match it was. You can not see anything like this match now. Why?
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Did Federer say that? It was not in quotes. I thought it was your addition. Source please.
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Did Federer say that? It was not in quotes. I thought it was your addition. Source please.
Federer did indeed say that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/20293161

Federer was attempting to become the first man since Ivan Lendl 25 years ago to win a hat-trick of season-ending championships, and his seventh overall.

"Maybe there's a bit of regret because I had the lead twice before him," the 31-year-old admitted in defeat.

"At the end of the day that doesn't matter, you have to get over the finish line in the set and then obviously the match. He was better at that today.

"What he does well - even in defence he stays somewhat offensive. That, I think, is what separates him from the rest a little bit."
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Couldn't they introduce some regulations on rackets? Improved rackets made shots faster and thus increased the number of acefests. On the other hand, because improved rackets have also made returning easier, S&V hardly works anymore, not even on fast courts. And improved rackets have possibly also made defending easier. When big-hitting and defending took a bigger role, the role of skills has decreased. With racket regulations they could make skillful playing more important, like it once was.

Still, the players are now stronger and fitter than some decades ago, so returning to '80s rackets wouldn't bring '80s tennis back. Besides change to '80s rackets would probably to too dramatic, but something smaller would be welcome. And at least I'd hope ATP/ITF at least to freeze the racket development, tennis doesn't need better rackets. On the other hand, I'm afraid that if ATP/ITF suggested something like that, there would a huge pre$$ure from racket manufacturers not to implement such a rule.

But you probably couldn't return to '80s rackets, and players would still be fitter and stronger than in the '80s, leading to acefests on fast surfaces and grindfests on slow surfaces. That's why I'd homogenize the '80s/'90s surfaces, but very carefully, hurting offensive and defensive playing styles equally much. Grass wouldn't be as fast as in the '90s, yet faster than in 2010s. Clay would be like it currently is, a bit faster than in the '90s. Outdoor hardcourts' pace would be between grass' and clay's, favouring equally offensive and defensive tennis. And as there are so few grass tournaments, indoors would be fast. Carpet wouldn't be used because it'd be too fast, but old good indoor hardcourt's pace would be quite the right. This way different surfaces would favour different playing styles, yet the undesired acefests and pushfests would be eliminated.

Anyway, current surfaces are favouring too much defensive playing, they should speed up grass and HCs, on the other hand, clay would be the only surface they could slow down, that's because they've speeded it up.

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Federer did indeed say that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/tennis/20293161

Federer was attempting to become the first man since Ivan Lendl 25 years ago to win a hat-trick of season-ending championships, and his seventh overall.

"Maybe there's a bit of regret because I had the lead twice before him," the 31-year-old admitted in defeat.

"At the end of the day that doesn't matter, you have to get over the finish line in the set and then obviously the match. He was better at that today.

"What he does well - even in defence he stays somewhat offensive. That, I think, is what separates him from the rest a little bit."
He didn't say: A faster court would only have benefited Novak even more.

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He didn't say: A faster court would only have benefited Novak even more.

GTFO troll.
Err, he said when Novak is on the defense he still plays offensively. If a court was quicker that would therefore suit him.

Pretty obvious conclusion to make.
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Err, he said when Novak is on the defense he still plays offensively. If a court was quicker that would therefore suit him.

Pretty obvious conclusion to make.
For a troll or imbecile.
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