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When will the slow court/homogenisation era end?

Lots of people are saying we are currently in the slow court era where nearly every tournament plays at the same speed and plays like clay since 2008ish, around there and also ever since Nadal emerged, so with that said, when will this slow court era come to an end? When Nadal retires?

Will the ATP Tour ever go back to the 90s era tennis where there was much more variety and various speeds throughout the ATP Calendar?

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Re: When will the slow court/homogenisation era end?

Probably never. They may speed up the courts a bit to shorten matches if TV channels want that. But they are never going to speed up the courts so much that talented shotmakers could beat grinders.

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Soon. Because Kermode is a lad.

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Re: When will the slow court/homogenisation era end?

Never.

Longer ralleis = better viewing for "most", better viewing = better recognition, better recognition = more money from the recognisers wanting to watch.

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Big sponsorship companies don't want to be involved in an unpopular sport, otherwise they're paying for their brand to get limited or low exposure.

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Re: When will the slow court/homogenisation era end?

There's a bigger picture behind it.

Black and white tennis isn't as colourful for "non-purists". Is it an ace or an unreturnable? The returner playing against a decent serve and vollier making a passing shot 2 times out 10? That makes service games predictable and a rolling inviteability....

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Re: When will the slow court/homogenisation era end?

Past tennis was horrible.

There is a reason tennis has survived. You guys should thank Nadal for that.
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Re: When will the slow court/homogenisation era end?

Tournaments have been slowing down well before 2008.

The truth is that it won't end until the governing body does something about it. With a change, there will be more players with creativity and variation once more. However, because tennis doesn't have a large serious fan base, the ATP will cater towards the casual fan.

I really can't see it ever changing.

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Re: When will the slow court/homogenisation era end?

I think once Nadal retires or really fades it'll speed up a bit. Djokovic is too dominant on slower courts, just as Federer was on faster ones, for them to let them stay. Speeding them up would give Murray a look.



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I think once Nadal retires or really fades it'll speed up a bit. Djokovic is too dominant on slower courts, just as Federer was on faster ones, for them to let them stay. Speeding them up would give Murray a look.
Djokovic's results this year proves he is good on both slow courts and fast courts.

I mean he won more fast court titles than slow court titles this year so to speak.

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I think once Nadal retires or really fades it'll speed up a bit. Djokovic is too dominant on slower courts, just as Federer was on faster ones, for them to let them stay. Speeding them up would give Murray a look.
No. You definitely cannot change the surfaces like that! And not because of a single player retired.

Supposedly fast surfaces will become fast again when the game becomes way too physical. Wait 10-15 years, people will start complaining for real.
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Tournaments have been slowing down well before 2008.

The truth is that it won't end until the governing body does something about it. With a change, there will be more players with creativity and variation once more. However, because tennis doesn't have a large serious fan base, the ATP will cater towards the casual fan.

I really can't see it ever changing.
People just pick that date because rafa won his first non-clay slam then, speak about being haters.

I do agree with you, the slowing down started well before 2008.

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Djokovic's results this year proves he is good on both slow courts and fast courts.

I mean he won more fast court titles than slow court titles this year so to speak.
Djokovic is fine on faster courts, although the only reason he did better there than slow ones this year is because with Federer's decline and Murray's injury, the Tour was a two man show this year and that other man is Nadal. Murray is a capable slow court player, but with his hopelessness on clay, things are going to need to be sped up to give Djokovic any competition for the best player once Nadal is gone.
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No. You definitely cannot change the surfaces like that! And not because of a single player retired.

Supposedly fast surfaces will become fast again when the game becomes way too physical. Wait 10-15 years, people will start complaining for real.
It was before. Because, well not a single player, but a whole generation, retired is why it was slowed down to start- not that the trend hadn't already started due to the prevalence of servebots but Nadal certainly increased it. Federer's only competition was a slow court player, so they made courts slower so he'd have a real competitor who would sell tickets, create a real rivalry. If the same happens in reverse, it will change back. Right now they are okay keeping it super slow because while that's Nadal's home territory, Djokovic is just fine on slow courts, especially slow HC.



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