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The players probably value grand slams higher than olympics, yes, but is that really how it should be? As an athlete, regardless of the sport, I'd value winning an event like that much more than an event that I can win 4 of every year. And no other competition really gathers so many people around the globe as the olympics, it really is the pinnacle in sports overall.

Someone mentioned that it's much harder winning a grand slam than the olympics, and I really can't see that? Where's the logic in that statement, honestly? You have 16 chances (GS) v 1 chance (OG) in 4 years, and yet you believe it's easier to win on that ONE CHANCE than the other 16? Retarded logic. Just ask Federer how hard it is. One bad day and you don't get another chance until 4 years later, in a whole career you might get 3 chances at best - that leaves very little room for error.

Different strokes for different folks though, but no doubt that I'd value an Olympic Gold medal higher than a Grand Slam win. Much, much higher.
What is this shit? You can't logically defend your previous statement so stop trying to. Olympics is not the focus or goal in tennis and has never been. Just because you think the olympic games should be worth more than slams because it's not played as often, doesn't make it so.

At this time, saying shit like "Olympics > Grand Slams > WTF > Masters 1000" is just retarded. And to begin with you only say that because Nadal has won the olympics. In reality though an olympic gold is worth probably less than a WTF title.

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Even though at a career high Ferrer might have started his long decline (age finally getting into him).
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Peak Nadal owns peak Federer on all surfaces
Peak Djkovic owns both
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Peak Nadal owns peak Federer on all surfaces
Peak Djkovic owns both


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Murray is a pathetic joke who has thrown away his career and the chance to win several more slams because he puts his silly feminist crusade ahead of winning major tournaments.

Lord knows I despise Fakervic, a truly detestable individual, but at least the guy has some balls. Murray is a pussy whipped man-child, an embarrassment to the human race and living proof that evolution isn't all that it is made out to be. If he had any dignity he would retire now rather than face further humiliation.
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I would say that 2011 was probably better than any year from Federer , Nadal IMO
2011 Djokovic>>peak Fed>>>>peak Nadal >>>>>> Djokovic
Can't really call peak Djokovic it was only 1 year

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I would say that 2011 was probably better than any year from Federer , Nadal IMO
2011 Djokovic>>peak Fed>>>>peak Nadal >>>>>> Djokovic
Can't really call peak Djokovic it was only 1 year
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Peak Nadal owns peak Federer on all surfaces
Peak Djkovic owns both

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Peak Nadal owns peak Federer on all surfaces
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The players probably value grand slams higher than olympics, yes, but is that really how it should be? As an athlete, regardless of the sport, I'd value winning an event like that much more than an event that I can win 4 of every year. And no other competition really gathers so many people around the globe as the olympics, it really is the pinnacle in sports overall.
What you're essentially saying here is that the frequency of the tournament decides how well you value it. Do you value winning the WTF higher than a Grand Slam? Or the Davis Cup? Or the Challenger Tour Finals?

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Someone mentioned that it's much harder winning a grand slam than the olympics, and I really can't see that? Where's the logic in that statement, honestly? You have 16 chances (GS) v 1 chance (OG) in 4 years, and yet you believe it's easier to win on that ONE CHANCE than the other 16? Retarded logic. Just ask Federer how hard it is. One bad day and you don't get another chance until 4 years later, in a whole career you might get 3 chances at best - that leaves very little room for error.
The logic is that the competition in the Olympics is simply not as good as in the Grand Slams. In Grand Slams you qualify based on ranking, in the Olympics based on your nationality. The 2012 Olympics had maybe the strongest Olympic field ever and yet players qualified ranked 108, 138, 158, 304, and 418 in an R64 draw. 2008 was even worse with players from Togo, the Bahamas and El Salvador qualifying aside from the four Chinese players that made the draw.

The second argument is the history. Historically, tennis has not been popular at the Olympics. Would you rather be in the winner's circle of Murray, Nadal, Massu, Kafelnikov, Agassi, Rosset, Mecir, and Edberg, or would you prefer joining the circle of Djokovic, Federer, Nadal, Safin, Agassi, Johansson, Kafelnikov, Korda, Sampras, Becker, Courier, Lendl? And that's just the AO, the slam with the least historical appeal.

The third argument is the attendance rates at the Olympics. Tennis simply has to compete with a lot of other sports that generate much more interest at the Olympics because of their tradition there - Rowing, Judo, Athletics, Field Hockey, etc. The result is half-empty stadiums and nobody likes those. Same happens with Football every time, which is why they should discontinue both Football and Tennis imo. (there's my unpopular opinion)
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As a big Federer fan, secretly I believe it's time that Nadal is recognised as the superior player.
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Peak Nadal owns peak Federer on all surfaces
Peak Djkovic owns both


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I'm sure Davydenko would instantly trade his WTF title for an Olympic gold medal.

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I'm sure Davydenko would instantly trade his WTF title for an Olympic gold medal.
Maybe from 2008 or 2012.

Historically, the WTF is far more prestigious, but nowadays I believe most players would take the gold medal. I'd rather that wasn't true but there you go.

On the other hand, it may just be Olympic fever that exaggerates the importance of the medal in that particular moment.
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Smug geekerer loses every war.
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Mark Lender's opinions towards Ferrer's vulturing are to some degree, true.

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Did Fed ever play 3 days straight semis and finals? I finally realized that RG is definitelly not a worthy tournament at all. I put MC and Rome as much better tournaments. not to mention
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