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Federer's match closing abilities

IT's a problem now!

Federer could well be undefeated. I have never seen a world #1 have so many leads, match pts in his career only to choke it away(save for kafel).

Gasquet played well and credit is due to him. But when federer has mp's on his own serve, he should win it. With his serve, there is no reason why he shouldnt have closed it out regardless.

Imagine roddick having mp's on his serve, and not winning a match. Cant say i remember a match where that happened.

Or how about sampras?

I don't care how many break pts federer saves with his serve, if he gets broken whenever he serves for the match. Then his serve is not as good as roddick's or sampras'.

I like roger and this may be an over-reaction on my part. But, its a bit weird to see roger make life difficult for himself as always. And then people come back and say that federer is so mentally tough, and that he has the best serve in the game.

I don't think so.


Roger , you seemed to lose your way a bit there. How did you get it back?

ROGER FEDERER: Well, I'm used to it now, you know. It's happened a few times.

But, no, seriously, I thought, you know, I played all right again, but just couldn't close it out. So of course it is worrying, you know. But as long as I could still end up winning the match, everything is all right, you know.

So I had the feeling the conditions were getting really quick in the end, you know. I had the feeling for him it was better, you know, the shorter the rallies were.

So, you know, in the third it was different again because they put water on the court. I think that was, again, better for my game. But that was just the feeling I had.

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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

Imagine roddick having mp's on his serve, and not winning a match. Cant say i remember a match where that happened.

umm andy and roger's serves are hardly comparable. roddick holds serve easier than almost anybody.

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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

If I could only lose two matches so far this year but the condition had to be me losing it after having match points I would take it. You are overreacting. Roger doesn't hit his serve as big has Pete or Andy. This was clay so serves get nullified most of the time.
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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

Yes, he is pretty tough mentally. If he wasn't, he would have lose more than two matches this year.
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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

Oh, stop it!! He beat Nadal In a five setter two weeks...people thought he couldn't even do that!! He got beat and the match was very close in points..He didn't just hand Gasquet the match...the better player won today. Let's leave it at that and give Gasquet his due.

I'm not going to run down Federer for not being mentally tough...yes, i think he could work on it, but everyone can. I'm not writing him off or questioning his mental abilities.

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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

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....and this may be an over-reaction on my part.
This the only part of your post i agree with. Calm down already. Furthermore, after the Miami Final, he's congradulated for his mental fortitude and now, after a close loss, he's labeled mentally flaky

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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

Federer is on his way to burnout. Him playing Monte-Carlo was stupid, stupid choice. I hope this loss will make him rethink his approach and will only play tournaments which the player of his status
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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

The sky is crumbling down because Jesus Fed lost a match.
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If I could only lose two matches so far this year but the condition had to be me losing it after having match points I would take it. You are overreacting. Roger doesn't hit his serve as big has Pete or Andy. This was clay so serves get nullified most of the time.
Ok, fine.

But, some on this board and many feel that federer has a better serve than roddick. Clearly you are not one of them.

i am not talking about federer's season. Its been incredible. But to me, he seems to squander so many chances in his matches. Even in the ones that he has won.

I wouldnt go so far, as to say serves get nullified on clay. Plus this is something abt roger on all surfaces, not just clay
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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

I dont care abt the loss...its how he lost!
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Ok, fine.

But, some on this board and many feel that federer has a better serve than roddick. Clearly you are not one of them.
Who feels that? Names please?
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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

I think a few people on this board need to take a chill pill. The man lost match #2 of the year...THAT'S RIGHT I SAID #2!!!!!! Get over it!!!!

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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

Roger has a mental block against younger talented players for some reason.

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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

Roger is not the only number one to lose a match badly and closely. Give him credit for fighting and keeping it so so close. Roger needs a break and really did well for not having much time to train on clay. I expect a good showing at Rome and Hamburg when he comes back from two week break. You can't judge mental toughness by the result only by how much you keep trying out there. Roger just couldn't do it today and really he was very lucky to be in that breaker to begin with.
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Re: Is Federer really that mentally tough?

Pea he has beaten plenty of younger players that nobody knows and talks about. Everyone just seems to focus on Nadal lost and Richard one and the one to Thomas. Roger has had a great year so far this year and doesn't need to be ashamed of this loss.
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