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Luxury semifinals at MonteCarlo

what a semifinals, the two last champions coria vs. ferrero and in the other side the number 1(federer) or the home favourite(gasquet) against the clay champion(guadio) or the new tennis star(nadal).

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I Agree, I am loving this tournament. I like every player left in the draw Any outcome and I'll be happy
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Claycourters..
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Why don't you like claycourters, ys?
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This SFs aren't as strong as they'll be next week at Houston. Go Andy

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Why don't you like claycourters, ys?
Not much of a tennis talent in most of them.. It's like .. some people like to watch 10k or marathon and like long-distance or marathon runners. But most of people prefer sprinters and mid-distance runners, because it is more exciting and a greater show of pure talent. Talent-wise, how can we even compare Federer, Safin, Agassi, Kafelnikov, Ivanisevic, Becker, Edberg, Sampras on one side and all kind of brugueras or musters on the other side..
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Re: Luxury semifinals at MonteCarlo

NOT brugeras but vilas, kuerten, borg(4 times roland garros champion), ferrero and thomas muster was a great player.

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NOT brugeras but vilas, kuerten, borg(4 times roland garros champion),
I should have stopped right after reading "Borg ( 4 times roland garros champion)" which tells volumes right away on what kind of knowledgeable and understanding tennis fan I am talking to. Anyway..

Borg and Vilas won not only on clay but also on grass, which clearly disqualifies him as claycourters. Guga on the other hand is clearly a claycourter not capable of playing well in Grand Slams on other surfaces.
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Borg and Vilas won not only on clay but also on grass, which clearly disqualifies him as claycourters. Guga on the other hand is clearly a claycourter not capable of playing well in Grand Slams on other surfaces.
So...how would you define someone like Ferrero?
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Why do people still tak ys seriously?

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I should have stopped right after reading "Borg ( 4 times roland garros champion)" which tells volumes right away on what kind of knowledgeable and understanding tennis fan I am talking to. Anyway..

Borg and Vilas won not only on clay but also on grass, which clearly disqualifies him as claycourters. Guga on the other hand is clearly a claycourter not capable of playing well in Grand Slams on other surfaces.
I'm sorry dear, but Guga did reach the quarters of Wimbledon and 2 times the quarters in the US Open (and lost one of them to Pioline in a VERY tight match). Guga, I think, proved that he could be one of the best on other surfaces!

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ys, do you think the 4 remaining players are claycourters???
gasquet is a young player and he still didnt make anything good, but he won some junior grand slams on hard.
nadal reached just 2 weeks ago the final at the miami masters(hard) losing to federer in 5 long sets.
coria reached miami masters final last year losing to the best roddick in 4 sets. he also reach a final on grass last year in holland.
ferrero, reached the us open final defeating agassi in the way and losing to the undefeatable roddick of the 2003 us open.he also won some hard court titles and an australian open semis in 2004.
as you see this arent claycourters cause they reached far in many important tournaments that arent clay. but yes there are hardcourters as roddick, sampras, etc.

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I think one has to have more than a few good results to kick that "dirtballer" tag. JCF made it to the Australian Open SF and USO SF (and ran Agassi around) so I think he kicked it. Guga kicked it when we won the Singles Championship in Lisbon by beating Pete and Andre back-to-back.
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Re: Luxury semifinals at MonteCarlo

Luxurious clay court tennis is some of the most luxurious tennis to watch, period. The sheer brilliance of one's ability to control the racket-head speed, while sustaining constant pressure in the mind to place the ball within the white chalk on the court takes substantial skill and determination.

A feat overlooked and unconquered by many who have the infamous ATP card lingering in their equipment bag.
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I think one has to have more than a few good results to kick that "dirtballer" tag. JCF made it to the Australian Open SF and USO SF (and ran Agassi around) so I think he kicked it. Guga kicked it when we won the Singles Championship in Lisbon by beating Pete and Andre back-to-back.
Exactly!!! Winning 2000 TMC Lisboa, 2001 TMS Cincinnati and finals in Indian Wells, Montreal and Miami prove that he can be great on hardcourt too!

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