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Question Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

Don't you think that, like Borg's, Fed game is too much based on his footwork to ever hope to surpass the gigantic record of Sampras ?
Borg felt he couldn't keep his quickness and fitness and decided to stop at 26. When he came back later, he was weaponless over 30.
On the contrary, Pete could rely on his serve and volley mainly, and win easy points on fast surfaces, beyond 29. Over-ten-slams winners are all serve and volleyers except Borg, who had such a concentrated career, that he consumed himself a bit, but he had no choice with his game style. I think Pete was the prototype of the "over-the-years-slam-winner", his game style being back by his consistency and racquet-do-the-talking personnality.
Roger is doing much more rallies and time could take its toll on him.

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

Uhm.... look at Agassi. He isn't a serve and volley player. And he's still competing at a high level at the age of 35. All that running didn't hurt him
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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

I think Borg didn't stop because he felt weaponless, I just think he was tired of tennis or something. Also Borg played so many matches when he was 17 and won titles when he was very young, I think Federer began winning when he was mature enought to handle beeing a star and also didn't have to play so many matches when he was young. I think Federer will have a long career, almost like Agassi. I am an optimist you may say, but I feel Federer loves tennis too much to stop playing, I think he has even more weapons than Sampras even when he becomes older and slower. For examplke he could change much of his style so he becomes more aggresive from the baseline and his serve and volley could become better.

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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

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Uhm.... look at Agassi. He isn't a serve and volley player. And he's still competing at a high level at the age of 35. All that running didn't hurt him
I know but if you observe him he doesn't run too much, especially since a few years, he almost walks, his placement is perfect...
And he won't win more than 10 slams unfortunately, unless a virus present in Houston last November starts to kill the players that were there...

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

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I know but if you observe him he doesn't run too much, especially since a few years, he almost walks, his placement is perfect...
And he won't win more than 10 slams unfortunately, unless a virus present in Houston last November starts to kill the players that were there...
Agassi won't win more than 10 slams because he took his career seriously too late. Federer takes his career very seriously. I don't know if he will win more than 10 slams, but it's not because of his baseline game. It's a question of keeping his motivation up for a lot of years. And that's very difficult to do.
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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

Federer has a many other weapons to rely on.

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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

Federer doesn't think too much about Pete's record, it's makro120 who's obsessed with such stuff and would like him to get himself killed chasing records.
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Federer doesn't think too much about Pete's record, it's makro120 who's obsessed with such stuff and would like him to get himself killed chasing records.
LOL @ makro with the gun ready under the pillow in case Rogi breaks his leg

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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

Roger doesn't move too much. He glides not grinds so he will be around for as long as he wishes really unless he suffers a big injury.
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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

I'm so out of the loop. Who's makro?

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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

Roger moves effortlessly, therefore this question is void.
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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

I think and have heard many other say that Federer has a style that is energy efficient, he moves in a smooth way, which is easy on his body. Unlike players like GHewitt, NAdal and Coria who moves in a way which is hard on the body. I think they all will end their careers around 26 years old. Federer on the other hand will keep playing as long as he is motivated, he could play tennis 12 more years I bet and stay on the top like Agassi, maybe even more succesfull. I really don't see many limits for Federer, he is a player who plays many matches and is rarely injured. Also he takes tennis seriously and he is much more profesional than Borg was, Borg rarely seemed to have fun out there, Federer seems to almost always enjoy playing tennis. You can't just say baseliners end their career more quickly than bigservers, it is more complicated. Does the likes of Connors and Agassi ring a bell?

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Guga winner: RG 2010
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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

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Re: Does Rogi run too much to ever surpass Pete's 14 slams ?

Players like Hewitt and Coria RUN.

Roger feels around the court. Besides, he does indeed have a power game style.
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