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LOL at Roger having more than twice as many points ...

... as Marat in the Race.
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Re: LOL at Roger having more than twice as many points ...

in the entry rankings he has more than 2000 points over hewitt and 3000 over andy.
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Re: LOL at Roger having more than twice as many points ...

That Race statistic says as much about Safin as it does about Federer. Look for the gap to close during the clay season, widen during the grass season, close again during the hardcourt season, widen again further on in the hardcourt season, then finally close during the indoor season.

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Re: LOL at Roger having more than twice as many points ...

Irakli Labadze's on the comeback trail and will soon be hot on the heels of Roger
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Sjengster call me arrogant but I think the only bad clay event Roger will have is Carlo given as I don't see him having time to prepare for it. RG might be another bad event but I am hopeful about a good result there this year. So I think he could widen his lead over Safin more.
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as much as i love roger i fear this is true. yay irakli!

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... as Marat in the Race.
I am sure he would happily agree to switch this year points and titles with Marat at this point..
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Sjengster call me arrogant but I think the only bad clay event Roger will have is Carlo given as I don't see him having time to prepare for it. RG might be another bad event but I am hopeful about a good result there this year. So I think he could widen his lead over Safin more.
Yes. Last year, Fed didn't even play in Monte Carlo due to fatigue and injury, so should he participate this year, he only stands to gain points regardless of the result. He lost in the second round (I think) in Rome and in the third round in FO last year, so hopefully he'll be able to better those results this year.

As for Fed not having enough time to prepare for Monte Carlo, I absolutely agree with you, Dirk, that he perhaps won't go deep into the tournament, but remember, last year literally a day or two after Wimbledon, he went to play in Gstaad on clay and won it. True that he will be facing players of much much higher caliber, but this time he actually has several days to rest. It will be so interesting to see what happens there.

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I am sure he would happily agree to switch this year points and titles with Marat at this point..
Hmmmm.... I disagree with that. I mean, not after IW and Miami. Of course GS is huge, but it's not everything. It's not as if Federer has never won the AO, either. And look how awful Marat has been performing lately! What's wrong with him? He definitely needs to turn it around soon.

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Hmmmm.... I disagree with that. I mean, not after IW and Miami. Of course GS is huge, but it's not everything. It's not as if Federer has never won the AO, either. And look how awful Marat has been performing lately! What's wrong with him? He definitely needs to turn it around soon.
If Safin wins just 4 tournaments this year and loses early in every single other tournament, but those 4 will be all Slams, he'll be considered bigger than Sampras. 3 years after only 4 names remain in memory of most of tennis fans - 4 GS champs. All the rest of tournaments is just money. Not much of a glory. No need to deny the obvious.
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Hmmmm.... I disagree with that. I mean, not after IW and Miami. Of course GS is huge, but it's not everything. It's not as if Federer has never won the AO, either. And look how awful Marat has been performing lately! What's wrong with him? He definitely needs to turn it around soon.
Agreed. It is a different story if Marat wins all four Grand Slams though. I don't believe that Roger would necessarily be happy with another AO title and then going 2-3 afterwards (not counting 2 not-so-impressive wins in DC).
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Re: LOL at Roger having more than twice as many points ...

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If Safin wins just 4 tournaments this year and loses early in every single other tournament, but those 4 will be all Slams, he'll be considered bigger than Sampras. 3 years after only 4 names remain in memory of most of tennis fans - 4 GS champs. All the rest of tournaments is just money. Not much of a glory. No need to deny the obvious.
But that hopefully won't happen. He has a good shot in Roland Garros, but I'd say Federer could beat him there and his mind says that he'll never do well at Wimbledon, so let's hope he listens to his own thoughts! And the US Open, well... it depends. He was a champ once but also lost in the first round. And it's not a guarantee that Safin is gonna beat Federer everytime they meet, which unfortunately some people seem to have forgotten about their H2H and how close that win in AO was.

Whatever, back to the thread, I agree with Sjengster about how well Safin will do to measure up with Federer's results. He doesn't have much to defend until the indoor season, but he has to wake up and start to play at his top-level again.


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But that hopefully won't happen.
Why not ?

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He has a good shot in Roland Garros, but I'd say Federer could beat him there
Or he could get beaten by him either. It could be a funny RG. Last year we ended with Henman in semis and even being in a good position to beat Coria at some point. It is not a concidence. With Spanish clay old guard ( Carlos, Alex, Albert ) gradually fading the claycourt depth of the Tour really decreased. It is not out of question now to get to RG semis without having to play a serious claycourter. Only 3 or 4 out of Top 16 players have clay as their best surface.

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and his mind says that he'll never do well at Wimbledon
Sampras's mind was telling him the same for like first 5 years of his career. Marat used to be in W quarters and there he pushed eventual champ quite a bit.

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Sjengster is simply wrong, there are no signs teh gap between Safin and Federer will close in the clay season. Safin played 6 clay tournaments last season and didn't win any, he didn't beat any of the big clay players but only lost against Coria, NAlbandian, Chela, MAssu and other clay players. His best result was a final in Estoril.

Federer participated in 4 clay tournaments and won 2. He got only beaten by Guga and Costa (2 former RG winners unlike the ones who beat Safin) and beat great clay players like Gaudio, Moya and Coria.

Safin has never won a clay title since 2000, when he won Barcelona and Mallorca and if you look at his statistics you will see taht he constantly looses against the big clay players like Ferrero, Moya, Guga, Coria and so on...

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