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Funny comment by Wertheim on Grosjean

Could it be that Sebastian Grosjean is fading? If you look at his latest results it's quite worrying. What's your take? Did his coaching change hurt him? And on to another Frenchie, Paul-Henri Mathieu. Will he finally live up to his early expectations?
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Now that the statute of limitations has lapsed, I confess that a few years ago -- and I hope I'm not coming across as the Village Scold here -- I saw Grosjean blow through a pack of smokes in the lobby of a Marriott in Mason, Ohio. I'm no Gil Reyes, but that ain't exactly the training regimen of a tennis player with grand ambitions. I always enjoyed watching Grosjean play. Lots of speed, lots of funky shotmaking, an awfully tough player on every surface. Plus he was one of the few players who hit that one-legged backhand effectively and not just for show points. But, yeah, you have to think his best years are behind him.

As you note, the future smells sweet for French tennis. Mathieu seems to be shaking the doldrums of that disastrous Davis Cup and playing terrific tennis so far this year. Gael Monfils is a future top-10 player who's won a few matches in Miami. Mean Jo-Wilfried Tsonga has game too. And we still haven't written about the talented-but-temperamental Richard Gasquet. (Random aside: Tempermental? Or "temperamental," with five syllables? Can we get a ruling from the judges?) [Ed. note: Temperamental.]
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No one should smoke! But then he's French, so what choice has he got?

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What a waste, smoking !

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Karsten Braasch smokes too and he's still a good doubles player

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Karsten Braasch smokes too and he's still a good doubles player
Karsten looks so unhealthy!! He can play dubs because he doesn't have to move too much !

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I always at the tsk tsks about smoking here and in society in general.

It was nice of PC/talkin'-out-of-school Jon to 'out' Seb as a past smoker. But, I don't think that long ago incident has a direct correlation to Seb's current form.

I believe it's possible for Seb to smoke and kick butt on the court. Has he been out of breath in his recent losses or out played?
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Karsten looks so unhealthy!! He can play dubs because he doesn't have to move too much !
He is unhealthy. Quite the character

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I think Seb's mum must have smoked when she was pregnant with him.

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No but I agree, I'm sure it is unrelated to Seb's recent poor form, there are bound to be more reasons for it.. and it is such a shame too, I saw him play at Queens, and whenever I have seen him play I have been delighted What a player--esp that inside out forehand!!

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...As you note, the future smells sweet for French tennis. Mathieu seems to be shaking the doldrums of that disastrous Davis Cup and playing terrific tennis so far this year. Gael Monfils is a future top-10 player who's won a few matches in Miami. Mean Jo-Wilfried Tsonga has game too. And we still haven't written about the talented-but-temperamental Richard Gasquet. (Random aside: Tempermental? Or "temperamental," with five syllables? Can we get a ruling from the judges?) [Ed. note: Temperamental.]
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My brother and his wife used to own and run a restaurant in Argentierres, France (close to Chamonix-Mt. Blanc). Several years ago, the French Davis Cup team was using some training facilities nearby, and Guy Forget and Henri Leconte would visit the restaurant a lot. My brother told me that they both smoked heavily throughout their meals. This was when they were active players, not coaching or anything like that.



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I've heard Marat smokes as well.
In the past, the great Pancho Gonzalez used to smoke as well, and Yannick Noah, but not only tobacco...

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Guy Forget doesn't smoke.

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it's probably not the cause of his horrible form lately but i for one have never understood why anybody let alone an athlete would smoke. smoking doesn't exactly do wonders for your endurance and many other things that are important for athletes.

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Guy Forget doesn't smoke.
My brother has a photo of himself with Forget and Leconte in his old restaurant, and both Forget and Leconte have cigarettes in their hands. Guy was probably just a social smoker.



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Pioline smokes too. I saw it on a picture.

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