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Roddick in top 50?

Would Andy Roddick be ranked in the top 50 on the tour if his current serve was replaced by an "average serve" for a top 50 player, say the serve of Hrbaty, Kiefer, or Malisse?

Put another way, would Roddick be in the top 50 based on his groundstrokes and netgame alone?

I know that Andy relies a tremendous amount on his serve to win matches, but I'm wondering just how much.


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Re: Roddick in top 50?

There's this weirdo Argentine commentator at FoxSports LatinAmerica who keeps on saying this over and over again everytime Andy plays.

My opninion? Yes. His groundstrokes would do a #40-45.

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Re: Roddick in top 50?

hasn't this been done one, twice, or a hundred times before?

Without his serve, Andy would be begging to be a production assistant for Good Morning Boca Raton! or he would be on some college campus somewhere doing a beer bong AT THIS VERY SECOND!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Roddick in top 50?

imo yes he would be but i don't think he would be in the top 15-20, he has a great forehand and his game is improving in some areas so i'd say inside the top 35 definitely.

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Re: Roddick in top 50?

JesusFed wouldn't be no.1 either. Maybe he doesn't serve has big as Andy but Rogi relies a lot on it. Rogi with Nalbandian serve would be top ten, but not no.1

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Re: Roddick in top 50?

The serve is a part of the tennis game, I don't know if anyone noticed.

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His serve doesn't always get him out of trouble... not anymore, anyway. There are players that are able to handle his serve with no problem that he's still able to beat or seriously compete with. I think people overemphasize his serve. Yeah, it was a big deal two years ago, but I think now the players are more immune to it.

I think he'd be in the top ten by now without it, but it doesn't matter. Taking away a players' strength only makes a situation irrelevant. Take away Federer's biggest strength, his cat-like movement/preparation, and I don't think he'd be number one in the world right now.

You can take one or two things away from any top player and then say "Without that, they wouldn't be where they are." Well that's just it -- Because they've developed such a weapon, that's how they've earned where they are.
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No, without his serve Roddick would be ranked 20398319083. It is simply absurd that the ATP continues to allow him to exploit this illegal weapon

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Without his serve, he would be nothing but a forehand.

And I think Roger relies on his footwork too much. If he didn't have that, he wouldn't be Top 100, let alone top 10.

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Re: Roddick in top 50?

yep, tangerine is right, but if you go further, without his backhand, forehand, serve and overhead I doubt he can crack the top 500.
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He shouldn't be allowed to use his forehand either

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Without his serve, he would be nothing but a forehand.
No. I don't think we should let Andy use the forehand either. From now on, Andy is going to be a clay-court specialist veteran. Just like Carlos Moya.

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In fact, that racqet gives Andy too much of an advantage, so from now on, he has to play with his bare hands only. And he has to have 2 shots of Tequila before each match. Damn that Andy Roddick.

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In fact, that racqet gives Andy too much of an advantage, so from now on, he has to play with his bare hands only. And he has to have 2 shots of Tequila before each match. Damn that Andy Roddick.
And no running either. We'll sit him in a chair in the middle of the court and he will only be permitted to stretch his arms out to either side.

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No. I don't think we should let Andy use the forehand either. From now on, Andy is going to be a clay-court specialist veteran. Just like Carlos Moya.
Carlos Moya relies on his sleeveless shirts too much. Definitely not Top ten worthy.

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