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Are Argentine players overrated?

The true is that they have not won an important tournament (but for RG last year). I think Coria, Nalbandian and Gaudio are very good players but they are one step below Hewitt, Safin, Federer, Agasssi, etc. My impression was that Nalbandian or even Coria could reach the top four eventually, but I'm not so sure now. What do you think?
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Re: Are Argentine players overrated?

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The true is that they have not won an important tournament (but for RG last year). I think Coria, Nalbandian and Gaudio are very good players but they are one step below Hewitt, Safin, Federer, Agasssi, etc. My impression was that Nalbandian or even Coria could reach the top four eventually, but I'm not so sure now. What do you think?
Nalbandian and Coria have reached the top four before-after the 2004 RG. Ddi you miss that?

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Re: Are Argentine players overrated?

Coria's been in the top 4 before, and will probably be back at some point. Nalbandian has an amazing amount of talent but just doesn't quite have it mentally, he also needs to improve his serve to reach the very top. Gaudio is an immense clay courter but his lack of progress on faster surfaces will mean he's unlikely to reach the top 4.
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Re: Are Argentine players overrated?

I know that David reached the top 4 after RG. Unfortunately, he got injured and missed Wimbledom, and two MS. However, they got in the top four when: Safin and Hewitt were coming back from their injuries; Roddich had had a very bad clay season (as usual). My questions is: Can David or Coria become a top four and stay there for a while? (not just for 2 or 3 weeks). Can David win a GS? Can Coria become a solid player in other surfaces other than clay? I used to think they could. I'm not so sure now.
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Re: Are Argentine players overrated?

Well Coria has already won a couple of Masters' events - Hamburg 2003 and Monte Carlo 2004 so I would say they are both important tournaments. I would say both he and Nalbandian are scarily injury-prone which is another subject completely - but both are good enough in their different ways to hold Top 4 positions if they can stay healthy in my opinion.

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David can definitely win a slam, I'd say he needs to improve his serve though. Coria is gradually improving on hard but still isn't anywhere near the top 4/5 hard court players.
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Re: Are Argentine players overrated?

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The true is that they have not won an important tournament (but for RG last year). I think Coria, Nalbandian and Gaudio are very good players but they are one step below Hewitt, Safin, Federer, Agasssi, etc. My impression was that Nalbandian or even Coria could reach the top four eventually, but I'm not so sure now. What do you think?
Why do you ask this question now?

Nalbandian is struggling this year, but I am sure he will be back soon...

I am pretty sure Coria will be ok in the clay season...

Gaudio is playing well...

Cañas will probably enter in the top ten in the next couple of months...

And about the number of titles... I don't think they are overrated...

Nalbandian made the final in Wimbledon, and Semis in RG and the US Open.

Coria made the final in RG, and won some TMS

Gaudio won RG

Cañas won a TMS

plus they won many other small tournaments...
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David can definitely win a slam, I'd say he needs to improve his serve though. Coria is gradually improving on hard but still isn't anywhere near the top 4/5 hard court players.
I hope you are right. I still think David could have won the US Open 2003 had he beaten Roddick in the SF. I still regret that tie breack in the third set.
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I hope you are right. I still think David could have won the US Open 2003 had he beaten Roddick in the SF. I still regret that tie breack in the third set.
So do I - and David's career has definately slipped sinced then - but life's too short to dwell on things like that which happened almost 2 years ago now. David had his chance that night -he didn't take it for whatever reasons - time to move on I think -he has beaten Roddick twice since then so I know that he has put it behind him.

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Why do you ask this question now?

Nalbandian is struggling this year, but I am sure he will be back soon...

I am pretty sure Coria will be ok in the clay season...

Gaudio is playing well...

Cañas will probably enter in the top ten in the next couple of months...

And about the number of titles... I don't think they are overrated...

Nalbandian made the final in Wimbledon, and Semis in RG and the US Open.

Coria made the final in RG, and won some TMS

Gaudio won RG

Cañas won a TMS

plus they won many other small tournaments...
But none of them has the records of Roddick, or Safin or Hewitt (let alone Federer). My doubt is whether they could reach that level.
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My questions is: Can David or Coria become a top four and stay there for a while? (not just for 2 or 3 weeks). Can David win a GS? Can Coria become a solid player in other surfaces other than clay? I used to think they could. I'm not so sure now.
They can... they have the talent, but sometimes thats not enough.

Nalbandian can play on all surfaces, he just has to do the click in his head, and start winning... I think that will happen next year or the other... (though, who knows? it might never happen).

Coria can easily be a steady top four just by dominating the clay season, and having a pretty regular hardcourt season (he has to stay away from injuries).
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Re: Are Argentine players overrated?

the Argentines are a talented bunch. but i am hopelessly biased n this one.

as we speak Chela appears to be on his way out of the tourny. probably too much partying last night.

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Re: Are Argentine players overrated?

all players are 10 step below federer. but, nalbandian only win 2 tournament 3 year ago. coria too much injury. gaudio very good only in clay.
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Re: Are Argentine players overrated?

I personally feel that Nalbandian is overrated. The rest... eh...


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the Argentines are a talented bunch. but i am hopelessly biased n this one.

as we speak Chela appears to be on his way out of the tourny. probably too much partying last night.
Chela was an absolute shambles, I think I could've beaten him
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