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128 players....

Or best 3 of 5 matches.....

They should work on that first, and then the Slam angle.

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No, they won't get there.

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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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No, its not the 5th slam. It may be the 5th biggest party on the tour (with the men and women in one place, the money, the city, etc, etc, etc), but its not a slam. Interesting to float the idea of having it on green clay, but if they did that, it would have to be a week or two after IW wouldn't it? To give people time to change surfaces?

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Re: Miami: The Fifth Slam? (a non-Federer discussion :o )

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No, they won't get there.

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crunch some numbers to support your point. but as long as most of the Spanish-speaking dudes show up in addition to Lbj, Mirnyi, Rogi, Knowles (my caribbean sweetie ) and Nestor, Safin, and Pavel, i will continue to believe that the world has been adequately represented
Numbers are absolutely useless the criteria that was shown to reach them has been explained and what purpose would it actually serve in this case?

Miami has never been the 5th Slam or ever will be, it's called marketing and someone as media-savvy as yourself would be aware of this.

I've already said TMC is the most prestigious event after the Slams and there are reasons for this.

Well if you have 96 players wouldn't there be a chance of having some international representation?

The rest of world which there is one when it comes to tennis doesn't buy any argument about the 5th Slam and yes I have been to the odd international event.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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No, its not the 5th slam. It may be the 5th biggest party on the tour (with the men and women in one place, the money, the city, etc, etc, etc), but its not a slam. Interesting to float the idea of having it on green clay, but if they did that, it would have to be a week or two after IW wouldn't it? To give people time to change surfaces?
Green clay.... Maybe one or two International Series between IW and Miami....

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In my opnion, the fifth most important tournament in the world is Masters Cup, by far. In my point of view to have the eight best ones together makes it well more important than a normal masters series
exactly. more prize money than the slams and more ranking points than a master's event. This is the 5th largest tennis tournament. GWH is also right. Miami "the 5th slam" is just a marketing tool.
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people!!! you can't define a Slam only by the # of enrolees. yes an official Slam consists of 128 players. but there are unofficial Slams with lesser #'s. but greater (or equal) representation. and tons of money. and terrific atmosphere! and a trophy worth holding aloft that doesn't resemble a fish! and which won't fall apart in your arms! i could go on! but i won't -- i have to go to sleep.

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*TC interrupts brushing her teeth to respond to these bozos*

people!!! you can't define a Slam only by the # of enrolees. yes an official Slam consists of 128 players. but there are unofficial Slams with lesser #'s. but greater (or equal) representation. and tons of money. and terrific atmosphere! and a trophy worth holding aloft that doesn't resemble a fish! and which won't fall apart in your arms! i could go on! but i won't -- i have to go to sleep.

more defense of my position tomorrow. or whenever i get a moment to post
We need you here TC. you're trying to make an important point.

In a slam.... 5 set matches need more fitness... and you can have a player ranked 135 in the first round....

Maybe the atmosphere,and the trophy could help your case....

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TC, the board awaits your passionate defences.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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TC, the board awaits your passionate defences.

That post is very funny, GWH

Maybe tomorow....

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What makes slams "slams" is that just about all players want to win them the most, I haven't heard players aiming to win Miami more then the other TMS and I don't really see a reason as to why it would be more prestigious then the other slams, as has been mentioned its a fairly new event.
Don't think intangibles such as draw size are what makes slams special.
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What makes slams "slams" is that just about all players want to win them the most, I haven't heard players aiming to win Miami more then the other TMS and I don't really see a reason as to why it would be more prestigious then the other slams, as has been mentioned its a fairly new event.
Don't think intangibles such as draw size are what makes slams special.
Slams are very old too, aren't they?

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Slams are very old too, aren't they?
That they are, but those are the 4 majors that the players need to peak for. I mean the Americans might win Miami more as it's a home event, but it's not the 5th Slam.

On Nadal bumping him on the changeover, Rosol said: "It's ok, he wanted to take my concentration; I knew he would try something".


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I definitely would have preferred Gaba winning as he needs the points much more, but Jan would have beaten him anyway. I expect Hajek to destroy Machado, like 6-1 6-2.
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TC I don't think Roger has broken one of his whale trophies yet. He broke his Milan one though.
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TC I don't think Roger has broken one of his whale trophies yet. He broke his Milan one though.
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