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Last time Fed lost 2 matches in a row...

was in 2003, against Philippoussis in Hamburg R16 (3-6 6-2 3-6) , then Horna in Roland Garros 1st Rd (6-7(6) 2-6 6-7(3)) !

Last time Fed lost 3 (and 4, is it possible ?) matches in a row was in 2002, against :
-Stepanek in Gstaad 2nd Rd: 6-3 3-6 2-6
-Canas in Toronto: 6-7(10) 5-7
-Ljubicic in Cincinati: 6-2 4-6 3-6
-Massu in Long Island: 7-6(5) 1-6 3-6

This loss against Ljubicic was certainly a bad memory, we know what happened later...
Maybe the loss against Canas is part of this very bad memory, so get prepared Willy !!

Then it's 6 times in a row in 2000 European clay season (Miami-Monte-Carlo-Barcelona-Rome-Hamburg-St Poelten)...

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."

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Re: Last time Fed lost 2 matches in a row...

And it seems that last time Hewitt lost twice in a row was in 2000, vs. Grosjean in Toronto, and vs. Santoro in Cincinati... quite impressive !!

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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Re: Last time Fed lost 2 matches in a row...

Didn't Hewitt lose two in a row in 2003 at Queens vs Grosjean then Wimbledon vs Karlovic? Or are we only discussing losses in consecutive weeks here?
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Re: Last time Fed lost 2 matches in a row...

Did not Lleyton Hewitt also lose consecutively to Max Mirnyi at the 2003 Canadian Masters and to Xavier Malisse at the 2003 Cincinnati Masters?
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Re: Last time Fed lost 2 matches in a row...

This is a silly thread simply for the reason that it basically is saying when is the last time Federer lost in the first round, of course he can't win every tournament as most players don't, so if he lost in any particular tournament his next loss would be a first rounder to lose twice in a row. These days everyone talks about retirement if he even loses a match. Completely ridiculous the kind the pressure that is on him. Sampras never dealt with this kind of crap, he consistently lost 12-15 matches a year.
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This is a silly thread simply for the reason that it basically is saying when is the last time Federer lost in the first round, of course he can't win every tournament as most players don't, so if he lost in any particular tournament his next loss would be a first rounder to lose twice in a row. These days everyone talks about retirement if he even loses a match. Completely ridiculous the kind the pressure that is on him. Sampras never dealt with this kind of crap, he consistently lost 12-15 matches a year.
Ok, it's just to see that he has a good consistency, nothing more... it's fun because if by any chance you like Federer and his realizations, you are suspected to worship him and you are supposed to die or cry forever if he loses... why we can't simply appreciate his game, his wins and his losses, and follow him as any other player... kinda weird

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."

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Did not Lleyton Hewitt also lose consecutively to Max Mirnyi at the 2003 Canadian Masters and to Xavier Malisse at the 2003 Cincinnati Masters?
Both are true (Karlovic and Malisse), I screwed up this one, but still 01 and 02 without back-to-back losses, good consistency... thanks to Hewitt fans

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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Ok, it's just to see that he has a good consistency, nothing more... it's fun because if by any chance you like Federer and his realizations, you are suspected to worship him and you are supposed to die or cry forever if he loses... why we can't simply appreciate his game, his wins and his losses, and follow him as any other player... kinda weird
mdhubert, well I agree with you kind of, this is completely acceptable behaviour for either a hardcore fanbase of a player or hardcore detractors. The difference is this kind of behaviour has extended to the media and to some extent commentators, the desperation for the media to create storylines and rivalries is one of the reasons creating this.
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mdhubert, well I agree with you kind of, this is completely acceptable behaviour for either a hardcore fanbase of a player or hardcore detractors. The difference is this kind of behaviour has extended to the media and to some extent commentators, the desperation for the media to create storylines and rivalries is one of the reasons creating this.
I agree with you, but honestly I'd even prefer him to lose a bit more, to see his resilience capacity, this is the trademark of champions IMO...
in addition, I live in Switzerland, so it makes it easier to see him in flesh and to really appreciate his game...

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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I agree with you, but honestly I'd even prefer him to lose a bit more, to see his resilience capacity, this is the trademark of champions IMO...
in addition, I live in Switzerland, so it makes it easier to see him in flesh and to really appreciate his game...
You see him more often in Switzerland when he loses
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Resilience is necessary if you periods of bad play, for Federer it seems to be that he has fewer of those periods than a lot of great players from the past. (Get yourself in trouble and then find a way out). I'm sure they all wish that kind of resilience wasn't necessary.

By the way, I'm a big fan of Federer, simply for his asthetically pleasing game and his quiet intensity. The same reason I used to be an Edberg fan. Gentlemen's tennis
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Resilience is necessary if you periods of bad play, for Federer it seems to be that he has fewer of those periods than a lot of great players from the past. (Get yourself in trouble and then find a way out). I'm sure they all wish that kind of resilience wasn't necessary.

By the way, I'm a big fan of Federer, simply for his asthetically pleasing game and his quiet intensity. The same reason I used to be an Edberg fan. Gentlemen's tennis
agree 100% !!

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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By the way, I'm a big fan of Federer, simply for his asthetically pleasing game and his quiet intensity. The same reason I used to be an Edberg fan. Gentlemen's tennis
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Re: Last time Fed lost 2 matches in a row...

Another interesting tidbit (perhaps a bit off-topic): Fed has not lost in straight sets since his loss to Guga. I believe that he has the longest streak since Agassi in the 95 season. I think Agassi went something like 74 or 75 matches in a row without losing in straight sets. I think Pete got up to 40 or 45 in a row. Fed's match with Ivan was his first in over 60 (I believe) that he didn't break his opponent at least one time. Simply amazing.
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Another interesting tidbit (perhaps a bit off-topic): Fed has not lost in straight sets since his loss to Guga. I believe that he has the longest streak since Agassi in the 95 season. I think Agassi went something like 74 or 75 matches in a row without losing in straight sets. I think Pete got up to 40 or 45 in a row. Fed's match with Ivan was his first in over 60 (I believe) that he didn't break his opponent at least one time. Simply amazing.
thanks for these precisions

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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