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Whoa....look at this... (shame on you Marat)

Thanks to robinhood's signature! http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/...layernum2=S424

Santoro is well-known for having that game which many amateur players hate, but seems totally OKAY to pros. But my God...look at that....

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Maybe Safin should have stayed longer in Spain:

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Roddick, Andy 1-0 Santoro, Fabrice

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Thanks to robinhood's signature! http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/...layernum2=S424

Santoro is well-known for having that game which many amateur players hate, but seems totally OKAY to pros. But my God...look at that....
that's no news

"He's the only person in this world who can beat me - no, I mean who beat me five times in a row without any problems. This is the only one who can drive me crazy on the court like he did already for two years.

"Being told I am having to play Santoro is like being told I am going to die."

"I want to say that I play against Fabrice in the Olympic Games. I went there with all the confidence of the world, and he drove me crazy one more time."

"I couldn't talk I was so disappointed because I hate to play against him, really (laughter). For me is like almost, "You going to die tomorrow. How you feel?" Same as they told me I have to play against Santoro . You will go out from the court without tennis, you will finish this match. You will not put one ball. You finish and you can't put one ball in or you play unbelievable. Normally is going I can't play tennis anymore against Santoro. I need two weeks to prepare. I need two weeks to practice to play the next match. Let's see. Let's see"


And when he beat him:
"Best day in my life. I was scared already before the match, and it's difficult to play like this. I play today like against a normal guy. I try to make what I have to do. I knew that sometimes in some moments I will have to rush a little bit, you know, to risk. I didn't look at him, what he was doing, because when you look at him, you forget how to play tennis, for sure. You know, you start to risk, you start to make some crazy things, dropshots. I'm satisfied that I didn't get scared, I didn't get paralyzed on the court."

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Marat is Fabrice's BIATCH!!!

'I'd like to be in his shoes for one day,' says Mats Wilander, 'to know what it feels like to play that way.'
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ANDY VS MARAT:

RODDICK 3-2 SAFIN

2004 Tennis Masters Cup, Hard, RR
Houston, TX, USA Roddick 7 6 7 6

2004 Bangkok, Hard, S
Thailand Roddick 7 6 6 7 7 6

2004 Indian Wells AMS, Hard, R32
California, USA Roddick 7 6 6 2

2004 Australian Open, Hard,
Q
Australia Safin 6 2 3 6 5 7 7 6 4 6

2001 Los Angeles, Hard, R32
CA, U.S.A. Safin 3 6 4 6



look at the 2 last matches.... they love tiebreaks!
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It is so strange that someone like Fabrice can make Marat his biatch.
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Actually it isn't. Fabrice slices and dices, and Safin just smacks the ball around the baseline. Santoro's style of play is perfect to keep on beating Safin because he'll frustrate the OAF in groundstroke rallies.

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Safin is also a tall man, taller than all of the Spaniards, which is a major reason why he struggles on grass with the slices and low bounces. He is a hard, flat hitter and doesn't use the same kind of topspin that players like Federer and Ferrero do in order to generate short angles and drag Santoro out of court, thus exploiting his limited reach with two hands on both sides. Federer used some of the same slice and dice play very effectively against Safin last year, feeding him off-pace balls and goading him into errors on important points.

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Originally Posted by joseluismb
Thanks to robinhood's signature! http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/...layernum2=S424

Santoro is well-known for having that game which many amateur players hate, but seems totally OKAY to pros. But my God...look at that....
In fact....there are a Marat's words:

Q: On playing Fabrice Santoro (only 1 win in 8 tries)
M: Being told I am having to play Santoro is like being told I am going to die.


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He should have mentioned Federer as another player who can beat him 5 times in a row.
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2004 Bangkok, Hard, F
Thailand Hard F Federer 6 4 6 0
2004 Canada AMS, Hard, F
Toronto, Canada Hard F Federer 7 5 6 3
2004 Wimbledon, Grass, F
England Grass F Federer 4 6 7 5 7 6 6 4
2003 Tennis Masters Cup, Hard, S
Houston, TX, USA Hard S Federer 7 6 6 2
2003 Canada TMS, Hard, S
Montreal, Canada Hard S Roddick 4 6 6 3 6 7
2003 Wimbledon, Grass, S
England Grass S Federer 7 6 6 3 6 3
2002 Basel, Carpet, Q
Switzerland Carpet Q Federer 7 6 6 1
2002 Sydney, Hard, S
Australia Hard S Federer 7 6 6 4
2001 Basel, Carpet, Q
Switzerland Carpet Q Federer 3 6 6 3 7 6

how old is that..or what is that...whats wrong with his nose?!?!?

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2004 Bangkok, Hard, F
Thailand Hard F Federer 6 4 6 0
2004 Canada AMS, Hard, F
Toronto, Canada Hard F Federer 7 5 6 3
2004 Wimbledon, Grass, F
England Grass F Federer 4 6 7 5 7 6 6 4
2003 Tennis Masters Cup, Hard, S
Houston, TX, USA Hard S Federer 7 6 6 2
2003 Canada TMS, Hard, S
Montreal, Canada Hard S Roddick 4 6 6 3 6 7
2003 Wimbledon, Grass, S
England Grass S Federer 7 6 6 3 6 3
2002 Basel, Carpet, Q
Switzerland Carpet Q Federer 7 6 6 1
2002 Sydney, Hard, S
Australia Hard S Federer 7 6 6 4
2001 Basel, Carpet, Q
Switzerland Carpet Q Federer 3 6 6 3 7 6

how old is that..or what is that...whats wrong with his nose?!?!?

i'm referring to Safin and its pretty low when you make fun of someone's nose
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Thanks to robinhood's signature! http://www.atptennis.com/en/players/...layernum2=S424

Santoro is well-known for having that game which many amateur players hate, but seems totally OKAY to pros. But my God...look at that....
I don't find this surprising at all, I can just picture Safin melting down in each of those losses. I bet Safin would have had a similiar record against Brad G's annoying game as well.

The problem I have with both of their games is that's its kind of a pathetic way to win. Bringing your opponent's level down. I guess all is fair in war, but I'd prefer to see both players playing the highest level possible on court.

I would much rather beat Safin by outplaying him when he's hitting the ball crisp and in his zone, than by dinking and hitting him crap shots until he explodes (I'm referring more to Gilbert, who I think might have tried to make his opponent play bad on purpose, wheras Santoro seems like more of an artist on the court; Santoro's creativness I think just makes him tricky rather than him actually trying to make Safin play bad)

Either way, players like Santoro expose weakness in a players game, whether technical or mental. Notice Federer dispatched him like 1,1, and 1 at this years AO even though he's had trouble in the past (i.e. Federer has dealt with some of the mental issues he may have had in the past)
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He should have mentioned Federer as another player who can beat him 5 times in a row.
The quote is from a while back.
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