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View Poll Results: best serve?
Arthurs 5 6.58%
Rusedski 2 2.63%
Goran 9 11.84%
Pete 26 34.21%
Andy Roddick 10 13.16%
Mark P.. 5 6.58%
Rafter 6 7.89%
someone else? 13 17.11%
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post #1 of 45 (permalink) Old 11-30-2002, 04:24 PM Thread Starter
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who has the best serve?

not just speed, but also spins and placement?
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You forgot like a million people.
Richard Krajicek
Marat Safin
Tommy Haas
Ivan Ljubicic etc. etc. etc.

Anyways Goran does.

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Quote:
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You forgot like a million people.
Richard Krajicek
Marat Safin
Tommy Haas
Ivan Ljubicic etc. etc. etc.

Anyways Goran does.
see....i use 3 elements to determine the serve
1st of all speed........well, Mark P is pretty much
the fastest server, followed by Greg and Any.....
the ones u mention dont hit as hard,

speaking of placment, the perfect placement server
is IMO Patrick.....and they dont match him for sure,

and last would be the spins........
and none others can do a better spin than
Arthur and Pete.....

but ya, Safin has an explosive serve,
but i dont think he serves as well
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Safin, Krajicek, and Haas have better serves than dickhead. Not only can they add some mustard, but they have lots of variety. dickhead just booms it down.

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Marat Safin! He has the best technic, he can vary very much and has the speed!
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Is it only me or do others have the same problem like me?! I can't see every answer...I saw Pea answered, but i can't see it ????
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look on 2002 stats

Ave aces per match

Arthurs 17.2, he also had best% of BP's saved
Krajicek 15.9
Philippoussis 15.3
Sampras 14.5
Ljubicic 13.3
Rusedski 12.0
Gambill 11.2


Dickhead had 9.1 per match
Guga 8.9
Safin 8.2
Haas 8.5
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Service Game Leaders

ACES
1 Arthurs, Wayne 802 47
2 Ljubicic, Ivan 695 52
3 Roddick, Andy 624 69
4 Sampras, Pete 607 42
5 Gambill, Jan-Michael 603 53
6 Rusedski, Greg 586 49
7 El Aynaoui, Younes 558 66
8 Safin, Marat 534 67
9 Haas, Tommy 525 63
10 Gonzalez, Fernando 503 60


1st Serve %
1 Robredo, Tommy 69 55
2 Schalken, Sjeng 67 61
3 Novak, Jiri 66 72
4 Pavel, Andrei 65 63
5 Costa, Albert 64 53
6 Youzhny, Mikhail 64 52
7 Mirnyi, Max 64 50
8 Coria, Guillermo 64 37
9 El Aynaoui, Younes 63 66
10 Henman, Tim 63 63

1st Serve Pts Won
1 Arthurs, Wayne 91 47
2 Rusedski, Greg 88 49
3 Roddick, Andy 87 69
4 Agassi, Andre 87 60
5 Sampras, Pete 87 42
6 Federer, Roger 85 69
7 Kuerten, Gustavo 85 37
8 Gonzalez, Fernando 84 60
9 Ljubicic, Ivan 84 52
10 Martin, Todd 84 40


2nd Serve Pts Won
1 Agassi, Andre 56 60
2 Rusedski, Greg 55 49
3T. Federer, Roger 54 69
3T. 3T. Roddick, Andy 54 69
5T. Canas, Guillermo 54 65
5T. Hewitt, Lleyton 54 65
7 Arthurs, Wayne 54 47
8 Mathieu, Paul-Henri 54 37
9 Novak, Jiri 53 72
10 Ferrero, Juan Carlos 53 65

Service Games Won
1 Arthurs, Wayne 91 47
2 Rusedski, Greg 88 49
3 Roddick, Andy 87 69
4 Agassi, Andre 87 60
5 Sampras, Pete 87 42
6 Federer, Roger 85 69
7 Kuerten, Gustavo 85 37
8 Gonzalez, Fernando 84 60
9 Ljubicic, Ivan 84 52
10 Martin, Todd 84 40


Break Pts Saved
1 Arthurs, Wayne 74 47
2 Sampras, Pete 70 42
3 Martin, Todd 68 40
4 Gonzalez, Fernando 67 60
5 Ljubicic, Ivan 67 52
6 Rusedski, Greg 67 49
7 Roddick, Andy 66 69
8 Rios, Marcelo 66 49
9 Federer, Roger 65 69
10 Safin, Marat 65 67


1st # = %
2nd # = Total Matches Played
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THanks for the stats TBE

So if I was to select purely based on the statistics I would clearly go with Wayne Arthurs.

However there are other things to consider. For example - who's serve would you most want when you are serving to stay in a grand slam final? That is, who's holds up better under pressure?

Arthurs has a good serve, obviously. But he hasn't exactly had to test it in high pressure situations like that as often as say, Sampras.

I lack direction.

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Arthurs just has a big serve, it's not that "good."

In terms of history, I'd say Sampras. Not only can he boom it, but he can do a lot with it.


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Yay! Go Andy! ..dont pay attention to Bitch Pea and BallSniffer TBE.
But thanks for the stats TBE! its what your good for

i agree with AndySafinette. So I'll probably vote for someone else..

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I chose Roddick. He is the first one that comes to mind.

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In all due respect to Roddick, he serve doesn't hold up trying to serve to stay in the match of a grandslam quarterfinal.

I am not saying it won't get better, but untill he learns how to do something with it, he's just "booming" it, as already mentioned.

I lack direction.

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