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Whose serve is the best to copy?

I want to change my serve a bit and I'm wondering who has a really good stroke to follow. I was thinking about using Andy Roddick's. Does anyone have any suggestions for me. That would be greatly appreciated. Also when i mean copy i mean whose is the mose effective and effecient because i've heard that Roddick's serve isn't a good one to copy. I was also thinking of using Roger Federer's serve. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

Don't try either. Roddick's is deceptive (his chest plays a BIG role) and Roger's is complicated, but looks simple.
Just change little bits of your current serve. E.g. throw a little higher, cross feet etc.
Could try Lleyton's-more straightforward to copy.

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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

Sampras's
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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

Unless you have a very lively serving arm and strong knees then I wouldn't try copying Roddick's, the toss is so fast and the racket-head speed is just impossible to replicate. Hewitt's serve looks rather cramped and awkward to me. Federer's is probably the best technically out of all the top players, but he himself said it's always best for young players not to try and directly imitate the technique of the pros on any shot, but to find what works best for them.

With the service motion, the simpler the better in most cases. I have a Bjorkman-like capacity for imitating players' actions, which is fun for a little while but means I can never settle on a single one and use it all the time.

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Sampras's
do you have a video of his serve?
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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

Don't try and copy anyone's, it's too complicated and you'll end up improving on one day and trying forever to repeat it, but because you copied a technique you'll be striving to do it perfectly, which is nearly impossible. Try instead, a basic swing and a low toss. Swing fast and fluid and adjust a little to your liking. You'll soon develope your own stroke that you will do by instinct, and not have some image of another doing it in your head the whole time.

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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

Never Hewitt's. You'll get a foot-fault call all the time.

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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

I think you should try to mentally visualize a pro's serve you really like BEFORE you actually serve. Roddick, Federer, Safin, and Moya all have pretty "textbook" serves. Sampras and Kafelnikov are two retired players who also had "textbook" serves, especially the former.

Just remember to toss the ball in front of you, not to your left if you're right-handed, utilize a shoulder turn (ie. use your whole body, not just your arm), and transfer weight from your back foot to your front.

But, most of all, keep it simple!

To answer your question, though, Sampras's service motion was so fluid. His serve had everything. Since he's retired it's a bit hard to watch him now.

Roddick's serve might not be the "traditional" format, but there is nothing wrong with it. He does everything the traditional server does; he just does it faster. If you watch the juniors play, you'll notice a lot of them are opting to do it Roddick's way (viz. Monfils, although he's ATP now).

Federer's is also good. I'm sure it's more complicated than it seems, but it is a great one to visualize.

Safin's shoulder turn is so obvious; watch it!
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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

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do you have a video of his serve?
if someone else doesn;t beat me to it, i will link you to one

(i *have* seen one --its on a site that is linked on the Torrents thread, just don't remember more)
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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

Well, with Roddick's serve (without copying him I have a similar motion) it usually involves a TON of power from the legs and a hard, clobbering snap of the wrist. But when you pull your hands out from your body, right before the toss, you make sure they are not nearly as far as some other pros. It's difficult to generate much power unless you can adequately take advantage of harnessing your lower body's power.
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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

Try Roger's. Safin has nice smooth one too.
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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

Federer's.
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Re: Whose serve is the best to copy?

Ducky torques his body and shoulders too much -- no-one should copy that serve.

as a club player myself i prefer to copy the journeymen as i won't be pro anytime soon. like Rainer's or Kafelnikov's (no offense intended to either), i.e., your good everyday garden-variety serve.

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