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Mixed Doubles ?

I´ve got some questions about this subject since Ive never watched a mixeddoubles-match on tv ever...

I read this on another website
XI. The Woman In Mixed Doubles
This can be a sensitive subject. However, no document on etiquette would be complete without touching at least briefly on the subject. Specifically, the question is how the man should play against the woman in an opposing mixed doubles team, particularly if the woman is the weaker of the two partners. There are two schools of thought. The first, which is more often applied in friendly games, says that the man should be “gentlemanly” by not driving the ball hard at the woman at net, or in returning her serve, and should not work her corner disproportionately. This does have the advantage of balancing play between opposing partners. It is “gentlemanly,” and it avoids the accusation of “picking on the woman.” In an otherwise close contest, it can also lead to losing the match. The other school of thought says that a team is a team, gender makes no difference, and the normal strategy to beat a team that may be unbalanced is to play the weaker partner. If that partner happens to be a woman, so be it. And if the woman does not like that, she need not play (or can get better). Both viewpoints have merit and both have their strong advocates. It is not uncommon to see a double standard practiced, with the first school of thought being applied in friendly, social games, where winning or losing may be unimportant, or even in an unbalanced tournament match; and the second standard being applied in a keenly contested tournament match. We believe it best to leave this choice to one’s personal discretion.

My questions are:

Which of these two ways of playing mixed is the most common ?

Ive got a sample of matches available from that british site that sells tennis-dvds/vhs

2002 Wimbledon Hewitt/S.Williams v Nalbandian/V.Williams
2003 Hopman Cup Hewitt / Molik v Hantuchova/Hrbaty
2002 Wimbledon Bjorkman/Kournikova v Woodbridge/Navratilova
2004 Hopman Cup Mauresmo/Santoro v Safin/Myskina


Can anyone comment these matches , please ?

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It's a tough one for sure.

Because someone like a Lindsay Davenport/Amelie Mauresmo/Serena Williams/Alicia Molik etc would be able to handle heavier balls better than most other women. But most of the women on the tour hit very hard these days. Maybe most of them can handle it.

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Re: Mixed Doubles ?

2002 Wimbledon Hewitt/S.Williams v Nalbandian/V.Williams???
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2002 Wimbledon Hewitt/S.Williams v Nalbandian/V.Williams???
Yeah, surprised me to and I cant find it in the mixed doubles draw 2002 either. The search-engine on http://www.users.bigpond.com/tennisvideos1/ is down at the moment but I did a search for Nalbandians matches and found that one.
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Re: Mixed Doubles ?

Maybe it was an exhibition...At that year in Wimbledon Hewitt and Nalbandian were the winner and finalist, and I don't remember about the Williams, but maybe they were too I've never heard of it before! Thanks for the info!
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The Singles finals: Serena vs. Venus and Lleyton vs. David!

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It is not uncommon to see a double standard practiced, with the first school of thought being applied in friendly, social games, where winning or losing may be unimportant, or even in an unbalanced tournament match; and the second standard being applied in a keenly contested tournament match.
At the amateur level, I think this statement rings true. For a pro, it's no-holes-barred because it's that "tournament" match format all the time.

For myself, as the woman on the team, I know they're gonna come at me especially early in the match and if we've never competed against each other. I say, bring it on, baby. I'm ready for it...and so is my partner. It's part of steppin' out on the court. Socially, most guys do back off a little...but not much. And so do I for that matter. The volleys and overheads aren't as crisp...and I'm never aiming a shot at my opponent's feet (as I would in a match). It's one of the nice things about the game...that it can be enjoyable played both ways...in the right context.

As for those DVDs, I think they've got the 2002 Wimbledon people mixed up unless it was some exhibition of champions as jazz_girl suggested. Hewitt and Nalbandian were the mens finalists and the Williams sisters competed in the ladies final.

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Re: Mixed Doubles ?

I could comment on Coetzee / Krizan - Matkowski / Washington if you want

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I certainly know what I'd do....equal prize money = no holding back, i'd be more than happy serving a 140mph serve into the body (if i could!)
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Re: Mixed Doubles ?

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I could comment on Coetzee / Krizan - Matkowski / Washington if you want
Feel free to comment on any mixed doubles match
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Re: Mixed Doubles ?

you got to pick on the woman on the other side before they pick on your partner.
Simple as that.

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Re: Mixed Doubles ?

I would be annoyed if I went to a mixed doubles match and saw the guys "going easy" on the women. IMO, that isn't professional The women who agree to play mixed doubles realize that the men generally hit harder and serve faster, and they play anyways. So anything is fair game, imo

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Re: Mixed Doubles ?

Hm, all this talk about mixed doubles makes me want to play some mixed doubles with Anna Kournikova.

Not on the tennis court, though.



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Re: Mixed Doubles ?

I don't think they should go easy on the ladies. They should do whatever they need to to win

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