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federer and nadal will not win this....

this is for nole , or murray.

fedal has no chance here , nadal because he have a very tough draw and this is not clay , and federer because he is old and nt in his peak anymore.

if this is peak federer and he can pass nadal , murray and nole would be easy for him on grass.

but now even in grass murray and nole are very hard for him
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Nobody should count Federer out against Nadal.

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Nobody should count Federer out against Nadal.
Whoever wins the match will be brimming with confidence going into the potential Murray encounter. Not good.
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Considering how tough Novak is, to beat. It's hard to imagine Rafa, through all of those matches and then beating Novak in the final.
If he gets to the final Djokovic will lose in 4 sets to Nadal like it should have been at RG. Nadal will not choke this time. But I don't see Djokovic going past Berdych.
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If Federer or Nadal were to win over Federer/Nadal, Murray, and Djokovic, that would be pretty impressive. But I'm not sure that it would top Michael Stich's QF/SF/F wins in 1991.

In the QF, he beat #4 Jim Courier, who was coming off of wining the French Open. Courier wasn't the world's greatest grass court player, but he was competent enough on the surface, making the finals in 1993.

In the SF, he beat #1 Stefan Edberg, the defending Wimbledon champion, who also won in 1988 and made the finals in 1989, losing to Becker. Edberg was 25-1 in his last 26 matches at Wimbledon coming into that encounter and had swept through Queen's Club and his first 5 matches at Wimbledon without dropping a set. This was arguably the Swede's best form of his career as he was in the middle of his second year at #1 and would go on to cruise to the U.S. Open title later in the summer.

In the F, he beat #2 Boris Becker, who would become #1 after the tournament. Becker was also arguably in the best form of his career in 1991, having won the Australian Open and made the semifinals at the French Open. It was the only year in which he held the #1 ranking (in January-February and July-September). Becker had lost to Edberg in the 1990 and 1988 finals and won in 1989 (and in 1985 and 1986) and was 25-2 in his last 27 matches at Wimbledon coming into the match against Stich.

Again, Federer or Nadal winning this year would be extremely impressive. But Stich beating Edberg and Becker at their arguable peaks at Wimbledon in back to back matches would be tough to beat.
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I'd still consider USO 2010 as Rafa's greatest GS - 95% of tennis fans and experts never thought he'd make a USO final, let alone win it in such dominant fashion after doing the channel slam.
It was opportunistic....he was never going to get many chances like that and he knew it well and capitalised. A cakewalk draw....SF with Youzhny....and a final with an Fed-worn Nole. Great for him that he got one when the going was good....but I think is sells him short to say that it was his greatest slam victory.
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If he gets to the final Djokovic will lose in 4 sets to Nadal like it should have been at RG. Nadal will not choke this time. But I don't see Djokovic going past Berdych.
No way... What you said is silly... Djokovic was also two points away from winning his serve game at 5-5. Plus Nadal didn't beat Novak outside of clay since three years. At the FO, it was on clay, perfect conditions for Rafa (very sunny), Djokovic played bad during at least two sets and still very close to win the match. If the final is between these two guys, slight advantage to the world number one IMO.
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If Nadal did this, there wouldn't be ANY excuse against him. Amazing achievement on grass.

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It was opportunistic....he was never going to get many chances like that and he knew it well and capitalised. A cakewalk draw....SF with Youzhny....and a final with an Fed-worn Nole. Great for him that he got one when the going was good....but I think is sells him short to say that it was his greatest slam victory.
They play on Monday. Nole was well rested. Cut de crap, mate.

Edit: plus Djoker / Roger played 3 hours 44 minutes, and Nadal vs Youzhny played 3 hours and 36 minutes, only 8 minutes of difference.

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They play on Monday. Nole was well rested. Cut de crap, mate.

Edit: plus Djoker / Roger played 3 hours 44 minutes, and Nadal vs Youzhny played 3 hours and 36 minutes, only 8 minutes of difference.
Did you watch the same match as i did ? Youzhny was nothing in this match and he was tired , He defeated
Isner and other guys but there were quite battles.
So Youzhny was tired. Nadal was so lucky to win this US Open 10.
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That Nadal/Youzhny was only 8 minutes shorter than Federer/Djokovic is pathetic.

How did it take Rafa that long to win 62 63 64? Pretty sure he didn't take 50 seconds between serving.

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That Nadal/Youzhny was only 8 minutes shorter than Federer/Djokovic is pathetic.

How did it take Rafa that long to win 62 63 64? Pretty sure he didn't take 50 seconds between serving.
Nadal once beat Massu 6-3 6-2 in Toronto, 2006 I think it was, and it lasted nearly 2 hours

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Did you watch the same match as i did ? Youzhny was nothing in this match and he was tired , He defeated
Isner and other guys but there were quite battles.
So Youzhny was tired. Nadal was so lucky to win this US Open 10.
Nadal has won finals after playing many grueling matches just before. Many other players have done as well. Stop being so pathetic and get over it, he won because that year he was the best.

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Nadal once beat Massu 6-3 6-2 in Toronto, 2006 I think it was, and it lasted nearly 2 hours
I can imagine what a push fest that was as well between the 2 Olympic champions.
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Nadal beat Youzhny in 2hrs 13 mins, not 3hr 36.

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