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Talking Aahhh those damn claycourters!

"How dare they not only win hardcourt Masters tournies during the summer season but also do well and eliminate Agassi from the final Masters in Shanghai?? "****

***overheard in a conversation between Patrick MacEnroe and MaliVai Washington
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pffffffffff@Pat/Mal

those two over-zealous Yanks
there are other playersas well who can play tennis too
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Those two are stupid

I hope SO much that Ferrero and Costa both win tomorrow, so that we have three Spaniards in the semis.

Has Pat ever said anything good about anyone Spanish when he didnt have to? Sure he kissed Moya's but the whole Cinci Semi, but it's a well known fact he hates Ferrrero

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Re: Aahhh those damn claycourters!

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"How dare they not only win hardcourt Masters tournies during the summer season but also do well and eliminate Agassi from the final Masters in Shanghai?? "****

***overheard in a conversation between Patrick MacEnroe and MaliVai Washington
LMAO, are you serious?!

What else did PattyMac say? I know he had to eat his words today!

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Agassi Loses at Masters in China

SHANGHAI, China - Andre Agassi (news) double-faulted on match point to give Juan Carlos Ferrero a 7-5, 2-6, 7-6 (6) victory Thursday night in the season-ending Tennis Masters Cup.

Agassi's second-straight loss in the tournament means Australia's Lleyton Hewitt will be ranked No. 1 in the world for the second straight year. It also clinches a semifinal berth for Switzerland's Roger Federer, who ran his record to 2-0 earlier Thursday by stopping Jiri Novak 6-0, 4-6, 6-2.

In the night's finale, Hewitt played third-seeded Marat Safin.

Agassi came into the eight-player tournament with a chance to overtake Hewitt in the rankings and finish the year No. 1. But he failed to reach the semifinals after his second straight loss.

Agassi battled Ferrero evenly, unlike his disappointing performance against Novak in his first match Wednesday. But mistakes once again buried any chance Agassi had to pull out a victory.

Ferrero, one of three Spaniards in the field, lost his serve only twice in the match — and both came in the second set when Agassi raced out to a 4-0 lead.

In the third set tiebreaker, Ferrero had triple match point at 6-3. But Agassi won the next three points before Ferrero held for a 7-6 advantage and his fifth match point.

This time, Ferrero clinched the win.

Federer, the first Swiss player to qualify for the season-ending championships since Jakob Hlasek in 1988, played well against Novak.

Federer took the first three games of the final set, then easily held serve the rest of the way to become the only undefeated player in his Gold Group.

Hewitt, Safin, Carlos Moya (news) and Albert Costa (news) are in the Red Group. Moya, at 2-0, clinched a semifinal berth on Wednesday.

After three round-robin matches, the top two players in each group advance to Saturday's semifinals. Hewitt is trying to become the first player since Pete Sampras (news) in 1996-97 to win this event in consecutive years.

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Agassi Defeat Leaves Hewitt Number One
Thu Nov 14, 9:12 AM ET
By Ossian Shine (Reuters)

SHANGHAI, China (Reuters) - Australia's Lleyton Hewitt clinched the year-end world number one ranking without lifting a racket on Thursday as his only rival for the top spot, Andre Agassi (news), slumped to a 7-5, 2-6, 7-6 defeat to Juan Carlos Ferrero in the Tennis Masters Cup.

Agassi fought for his life in the Chinese sea port but could not outlast the Spaniard and prevent Hewitt finishing the year as world number one for a second successive year.

The American needed to win the $3.7 million season-ending tournament to stand a chance of becoming the oldest player to end a year top of the pile, and having already lost to Jiri Novak in his opening Gold Group match, he needed to win to stay alive in the contest.

Agassi's disappointment was palpable afterwards as he struggled to describe his feelings.

"I don't think it would be possible (to explain) really... I wouldn't know how to communicate it," he said.

But he looked ill at ease and distracted as he frittered away the opening set, netting a backhand on Ferrero's third set point.

It was a different Agassi who roared on to the court for the second set, though, and he reeled off the first four games to put himself firmly in charge.

Pummeling groundstrokes, stepping in to searing returns and stretching the Spaniard with angled serves and volleys he thrilled the Chinese crowd at the New Shanghai International Expo Center with some textbook tennis to level the match.

The pair stood toe-to-toe for the third set, Agassi hitting harder and harder and Ferrero retrieving for all his worth.

Agassi saw a glimmer of light in the ninth game when he earned two break points but he missed the first with a flicked backhand off a drop shot and Ferrero saved the second with an ace before holding on in admittedly shaky fashion.

The American showed no such nerves, shoving winners into the corners of the court with his double-handed backhand and firing forehands past Ferrero's reach.

Once more Ferrero forged ahead 6-5 by holding serve to heap the pressure on Agassi.

Once more Agassi proved himself up to the task, staving off one match point and forcing a tiebreak with a thunderous forehand winner down the line.

He nosed ahead in the tiebreak but allowed Ferrero back into it and a forehand fired long gave Ferrero three more match points at 6-3.

Agassi fought them off with some lion-hearted rallying but immediately netted a forehand to give the Spaniard his fifth match point. Ferrero needed no heroics on this one as Agassi tamely threw in a double fault.

Despite the American's immense disappointment he insisted on looking ahead. "Next year I will approach with expectations of it being better," he said. "The key will be consistency."
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I just love this article Americans are so consistent, there's only Andre in their eyes. Absolutely no credit to Ferrero.
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Would it be so hard to admit that he got beaten by a better player today? Oh, I guess it would.
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Has Pat ever said anything good about anyone Spanish when he didnt have to? but it's a well known fact he hates Ferrrero
Why does Pat hate Juan Carlos?
By the way.....come on.....I love the claycourters!

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lol, relax , everybody! they really didn't say that, it was just a joke! but I wouldn't be surprised if they thought about it though, this post was intended to be ironic because of the large "discrimination" the so called "claycourters" suffer from the American and Australian Media...
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lol, relax , everybody! they really didn't say that, it was just a joke! but I wouldn't be surprised if they thought about it though, this post was intended to be ironic because of the large "discrimination" the so called "claycourters" suffer from the American and Australian Media...
The Australian media are getting better about it. They have now admitted that Moya is not just a clay-courter
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I'm hoping that Costa loses tonight because I want Hewitt in the semis, but I'm expecting Moya to win the tournament. He has shown the best form throughout the tournament so far
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The Australian media are getting better about it. They have now admitted that Moya is not just a clay-courter
But it's just Moyá, how about the rest of spaniard or latinamerican guys?
I don't find fair for them to be called like that, I bet that the other group of players as australians, americans, etc. wouldn't be discriminated by have better results in determined surface.

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Why does Pat hate Juan Carlos?
By the way.....come on.....I love the claycourters!
Like I said in the JCF forum - you'd like Juan Carlos slept with his wife or something

The guy can hardly manage to spit out something even remotely nice about him.
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I find all this VERY interesting. Let them talk. Denial is ridiculous for the one practicing it. We can always crack laughing of their faces.

Im glad none here thinks that way, though.

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It is nice that the claycourters are proving assumptions wrong, but, the all-courter will win: ROGER FEDERATION!!!!!!!!

With each passing season, I discover new reason
SAMPRAS --> Rios --> KUERTEN --> Kafelnikov -->
Federer --> Hewitt --> RODDICK --> GONZALEZ -->
NALBANDIAN --> Benneteau --> Davydenko --> Mathieu -->
TURSUNOV --> Mantilla --> KIEFER --> NADAL -->
Karlovic --> Odesnik --> Stepanek --> Monfils -->
??


Oliver Cromwell lay buried and dead. Hee-haw. Buried and dead.
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The "claycourters" aren't JUST "claycourters" which is why they are "proving assumptions wrong"

I lack direction.

Chocking makes me sad.
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