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post #1006 of 1370 (permalink) Old 11-03-2012, 02:03 AM
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Re: Nadal and Djokovic's mental toughness is overrated

cluth, blah, blah and give me more blah. you have 2 players who won so much and no, my mother is not mentally tough enough for some of you on this board(sorry mom).are you people crazy? haven't you seen Novak saving so many MP and still winning. Haven't you seen Nadal getting out of impossible matches and winning?

do you need some of u tube highlights?

who is mentally tough on this board? just bunch of you who BS 24/7. of course you are mental giants, hello. gee, lol

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Re: Nadal and Djokovic's mental toughness is overrated

Best troll thread.

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Re: Nadal and Djokovic's mental toughness is overrated

Well I think mental strength is just really impossible to measure, especially considering different play styles. Someone like Federer is going to go after his shots, and if he misses he chokes, while someone like Rafa will probably not miss on important shots and keep the ball in play so when a winner gets played against him, even though he loses the point just as well, it never gets looked at as a choke but rather huge mental strength by the other player. So it isn't really tough to say. Novak will go after shots more than Rafa, but both certainly will not miss when they are at their peak mental strengths.

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Re: Nadal and Djokovic's mental toughness is overrated

Nole pushed those FHs against Olderer at Uso 2010 and especially one in 2011, he pushed like a mug against Clownga this year, and for sure pushed match points against Mugray few weeks ago. I cant recall all his def/pushing clutch moments but these are ones i can recall.

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cluth, blah, blah and give me more blah. you have 2 players who won so much and no, my mother is not mentally tough enough for some of you on this board(sorry mom).are you people crazy? haven't you seen Novak saving so many MP and still winning. Haven't you seen Nadal getting out of impossible matches and winning?

do you need some of u tube highlights?

who is mentally tough on this board? just bunch of you who BS 24/7. of course you are mental giants, hello. gee, lol
Great post!
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Re: Nadal and Djokovic's mental toughness is overrated

Nadal's 5-set record, Novak's saved MPs and Novak's record of losing for the 1st time this year after he won the 1st set just now vs Querrey, say hello. Imagine that if he wins the 1st set, he never loses (chokes).

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Re: Nadal and Djokovic's mental toughness is overrated

This most certainly does not apply to Djokovic. He takes more risks than any other player on tour when up against the wall and usually succeeds.
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Do ****s not know what trolling is, or is End da game serious...?

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(Tbh this is mainly about nadal, because his style is a lot defensive than djokovic who hits his shot much flatter)

They play defensive tennis, go for less riskier shot, opting just to get the ball back instead of trying for a winner. They leave a greater margin of error in their shots and as a result, their unforced error counts are always lower. Therefore its not surprising that in a highly pressurized situation (i.e. match point down/deep into the 5th set), the nerves in their body would affect them less than someone who plays near the lines or hit flatter shots.

1) I don't see how you can logically come to the conclusion that defensive tennis players are a lot more likely to loosen up when in seemingly inescapable situations. If anything, they're more likely to do what they do best

2) Djokovic's fearlessness in certain situations speaks for itself. 2011 was a clear example of that.
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Re: Nadal and Djokovic's mental toughness is overrated

Nadal is one of the mentally toughest players in history (in fact, it's his greatest attribute). And Djokovic is well on his way there as the last two years have shown.

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it's a pity the general public think that federer is mentally tougher

after all, he just stands there and serves, hitting ace after ace

easy to look mentally tough when you do that

djokovic is genuinely mentally tough
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Could Nole 2.0's domination of Nadal be forgotten?

Certainly it will be hard to miss Noles 3 straight slam wins over Nadal from 2011-2012 in the history books, and indeed had he won the Nole slam and beat Nadal 4 slam finals in a row, the domination would be cemented forever.

However, the reality is Nadal is still ahead in the H2H. And whatever happens, their final H2H is likely to be very tight and not a domination one way or the other. Most probably Nadal will be ahead however, he is better on grass and clay though in saying that he will be likely to be out of sorts in 2013 and a handy beat for Djokovic.

I just think people might eventually forget about it, espeically if Nadal ends up with more slams at the end of his career.

The only real cogent argument anyone tries to use that a player who won less slams is better than another is a lopsided H2H. I just think that stands out a little more than 8 wins in a row at one point of time, especially given the clear bad match up and fact it was Noles absolute peak and a downer year for Nadal.

Nadal is also going to finish his career with at least 7 titles of one slam. I don't think at this point it is likely that Nole will do anything individually that tops this.

I fear this may result in people forgetting about Nole 2.0 domination.

They also traded back to back 3 slam seasons/3 straight slams so that negates that also.

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Re: Could Nole 2.0's domination of Nadal be forgotten?

What domination?
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Re: Could Nole 2.0's domination of Nadal be forgotten?

dull lost 7 times in a row!!!

one of the reasons i don't dislike novak, even though he rips his shirt off! i can deal with him because he humiliated dull 7 times in a row


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