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View Poll Results: Who (was)is the best player
Roger Federer 14 20.59%
Bjorn Borg 6 8.82%
John Mcenroe 3 4.41%
Guillermo Vilas 0 0%
Pete Sampras 23 33.82%
Rod Laver 7 10.29%
Andre Agassi 6 8.82%
Ivan Lendl 1 1.47%
Jimmy Connors 1 1.47%
another 7 10.29%
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who (was)is the best player

Roger Federer
Bjorn Borg
John Mcenroe
Guillermo Vilas
Pete Sampras
Rod Laver
Andre Agassi
Ivan Lendl
Jimmy Connors
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Roger Federer, what an arrogant asshole.
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Re: who (was)is the best player

You want to restart a looooooooooong debate...
Connected questions are:
-changes in technologies, surfaces, professionalism, money, transportation, etc.
-Does it mean the best among his peers or in history ?
-Mix in surfaces
etc. etc.
For sure, the top tier is and remains:
Laver, Borg, Sampras


"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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Re: who (was)is the best player

everything.............

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Re: who (was)is the best player

I'd like to say Federer just for the fact that it'd be nice to be a big follower of the sport when the best of all time is going around, but in my opinion, the best can only be a player who has sustained such a high level over many years....Roger still has a long way to go

I dont believe any pick can be definite because of the nature of the game and the way it has changed, but my pick is Rod....who knows how many Grand Slams he would've won if he were allowed to play in them during what surely wouldve been his prime, from 63-67
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Re: who (was)is the best player

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You want to restart a looooooooooong debate...
and an endless one . I think that comparisons between different periods and thus active and retired players can not be done seriously. Let us just give all these guys their due credit.

But one thing is guaranteed: I always like to watch those who play at present, meaning in the 90ies I preferred Pete over a "taped" Borg and now I prefer Roger over a "taped" Pete
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Ferrero without a doubt

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everything.............
What I meant was that it's almost impossible to actually compare players of different generations.
Just a few examples:
-Laver: first he played before OE and after OE. It's an historical fact that no other great has faced. He admits himself that he wanted to become professional because the guys were good. Pancho Gonzalez, who is not even mentioned here, beat him on a regular basis, and he has maybe 2 USO in singles only.
When Laver made his 2 slams 3 out of 4 were on grass. In the same configuration, Sampras would have won maybe 24 slams, who knows ?
-Agassi has done a career slam, which is quite a feat as he's the only one to have done it on hard, grass and clay. Would have Laver a GS with hard court slams ? Borg didn't win a Slam on hard after all...

Conclusion: Let's do a poll on great achievements, asessing their value as such, but let's stop comparing players of different eras in strerile and never-ending debates...

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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Federer without a doubt

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Ferrero without a doubt
The joker is still around...

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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i'm not a joker, i'm speaking my mind.

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i'm not a joker, i'm speaking my mind.
either that or you've lost it
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i'm not a joker, i'm speaking my mind.
Ok, so give some arguments again Laver's 2 GS, Pete's 7 Wimby/5 USO/2 AO, Borg's 6 FO/5 W... JCF: 1 FO, but still counting, for sure !!

"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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well he's the best player in my mind

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"I asked a bloke in the front row if he liked the serve-and-volley stuff," said Rafter. "He said he did but asked if he was going to get to see any rallies. 'Not today, mate,' I told him."
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