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Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

I just read this nice little article on Andre.

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercu...0785805.htm?1c

Good for him for continuing on this year despite the AO disappointment.
But in the article, the San Jose tournament consultant was quoted as saying, "if somehow [Andre] had ended up playing Safin instead of Federer, I think he would have won that match."

I would've hoped so myself, but really??
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

Andre didn't in 2004... so, yeah.
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

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Andre didn't in 2004... so, yeah.
You mean Andre could have or couldn't have in 2005?
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

and the answer is... no, Andre would most likely not have defeated Marat

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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

Serving would be a key factor, imo, as it has been in their past encounters. Marat was serving out of a tree in his best matches this year (and in the semi against Andre last year). For Andre to be competitive, he would have to have a great serving day, much better than his serving was against Federer, for example --- and then he would have a chance. Once they get into rallies, they are fairly even (though Marat's backhand down the line can be really dangerous). Have to favor Marat.

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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

I think Marat would have beaten him- in last year's match Marat was very in and out, this year he was a lot more focused and match sharp so yes, I believe if he beat Agassi in his state of mind last year he definitely could have handled him this year, a lot easier than last year even.
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

Hell, if Agassi hadn't choked he would have defeated Federer. His tactic of hammering Federer's backhand proved quite effective. But his overall play was so untypically error-prone that day, so fragile. I think Andre was way too nervous that day.

Could he have beaten Safin? I don't see why not...
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

Had they met in AO quarters or in any stage, I would've given the edge to Marat, too. And I think Marat beat Andre at least twice last year
in AO and Madrid Masters semis.
But no question, Andre still has the upper hand on Hewitt and Roddick.
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

I meant that Andre probably wouldn't have considering Andre lost to him last year. But, who knows? That's why they play the matches. The stupid part is coming right out and saying that Andre would have beat Marat... that's just silliness. Sorry for the confusion.
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

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Hell, if Agassi hadn't choked he would have defeated Federer. His tactic of hammering Federer's backhand proved quite effective. But his overall play was so untypically error-prone that day, so fragile. I think Andre was way too nervous that day.

Could he have beaten Safin? I don't see why not...
really?????you think agassi could have beated feddy??? i am not sure about that.. i always root for andre over anyone....he usually is not prone to nerves...but i DO believe he could have beated marat...

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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

I think that writer (or Barry MacKay) had a big bout of wishful thinking there. He obviously forgot the result from the previous year. It would have been more believable if he'd inserted the name of one of the other top four players instead of Safin.

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It would have been more believable if he'd inserted the name of one of the other top four players instead of Safin.
Federer included?
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

No, "Federer rather than Federer" wouldn't have made sense I meant that he would have had a legit shot against Roddick or Hewitt. He might not have won, but he may have made some inroads.
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

I think Andre could've defeated Hewitt or Roddick. As Mary Carillo said during the match vs. Fed, Andre's got to raise his ranking enough so that he wouldn't have to play Fed (or Safin, too) in the quarters.
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Re: Could Andre have defeated Marat in AO?

He's beaten them over 3 sets last summer, I think it might be harder over 5, but still possible. He was rather unfortunate to get Federer in the last two GS quarter-finals, but getting his ranking up into the top four will be pretty tough; Safin at fourth is already 1400 points ahead of Agassi. Let's see how the hardcourt TMS go.
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