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Marat V. Yvegeny

Kafelnikov has said in the past that he didn't want any other Russian man to eclipse his achievements in tennis. Has Marat done this?
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Re: Marat V. Yvegeny

yes...and he will do so even more in the next 5 years (in all probability)
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I am not sure if he has eclipsed Yevgeny yet but after reading that Yevgeny wants no one to overtake his records, I hope Marat does it soon. That's a bit immature from Yevgeny - basically saying I have achieved this but no other Russian in the future should be seen as better than me.
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That's a bit immature from Yevgeny - basically saying I have achieved this, no other Russian should be seen as better than me.
Exactly. I'd be excited and honored to be the first of hopefully many great Russian male players if I were him.

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Re: Marat V. Yvegeny

Just about, obviously he's some way behind in titles but if he keeps up this level he should overtake Kafelnikov's 26 by the end of his career. I'm not expecting Safin to win multiple GS doubles titles or an Olympic gold medal either, both underrated achievements by Kafelnikov, but he's already spent longer at no. 1 than the Y-Man and surely he will win at least one more Slam in singles.

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Yevgeny was an arrogant selfish prick, I definitely hope Marat wins at least another GS title somewhere along the line to put that issue to rest
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Yevgeny is still ahead, he won 2 Grand Slams + Olympic Gold Medal, this gold medal keeps him in front until Safin can add another major title.
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As far as I am concerned he has. It is not always about the amount of titles you have - Marat has more ten times more class in his pinky finger then Yevgeny coukd ever dream of possessing and I think that counts for something. It is hard to say a bad word about Marat, yet I could effortlessy run off the 4 letter words about Yevgeny if I felt so inclined.

Besides, Marat is going to win the Australian Open again and more grand slams to boot so Yevgeny can go and eat some humble pie now.

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Kafelnikov has said in the past that he didn't want any other Russian man to eclipse his achievements in tennis. Has Marat done this?
not yet. but if he keeps winning like this he definitely will. for now i still give YKant the edge.

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Kafelnikov has said in the past that he didn't want any other Russian man to eclipse his achievements in tennis. Has Marat done this?
Uh, where he has said so? Sounds very unlikely, because he worked to develope Russian tennis. I know he isn't very appreciated in the West, but he commands much respect amongst fUSSR tennis players.

As far as career totals go, Yevgeny is still ahead overall, because of more titles, Olympic Gold and RG+AO is more valuable combination than USO+AO (due to clay factor), and also because Kafelnikov's doubles achievments.

However Safin's titles have been won in much shorter timescale and there is no doubt that he has superior potential and is likely to eclipse Kafelnikov. YK never won more than 4 titles per year and he never won any Masters/Super 9 singles titles. Also, while Yevgeny had all the tools to become real all-time great, he never had the mindset to make it happen. He almost always lost to contemporary top players and seldom seemed truly to believe that he was one of the best. Safin by contrast has mind and will of a champion and isn't afraid of anyone (except maybe Santoro )
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...Safin by contrast has mind and will of a champion and isn't afraid of anyone (except maybe Santoro )
and Ollie a little bit

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Yevgeny was an arrogant selfish prick, I definitely hope Marat wins at least another GS title somewhere along the line to put that issue to rest

RonE How can someone as nice as you be so cruel to one of my all-time favourites!!!!! At the moment, I think it's fairly clear that Marat hasn't overtaken Zhenya's great achievements, but if he carries on playing as he has this past two weeks he'll do it in a year or so for sure. Now I'm going off to sulk RonE - and I thought you were my friend

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Definatly Marat has tanned Kafelnikov's ass I can't stand Kafelnikov he's so arragant, he should be congratulating Marat.

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Definatly Marat has tanned Kafelnikov's ass I can't stand Kafelnikov he's so arragant, he should be congratulating Marat.
Says who that he hasn't? This is from Safin's yesterday interview:
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Q. Have you heard from Yevgeny at all during this fortnight?

MARAT SAFIN: No, I got the ‑‑ I got an SMS from him, "Good luck."
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Zhenya at least was honest towards the media, unlike Sampras, Agassi etc with their faked class.
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You can be honest to the media without being a classless douchebag. Look at Marat - he is honest to the media and doesn't hold back, and is still one of the classiest guys out there.
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